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Figma threatens companies using "Dev Mode"

2025-07-18T07:17:39Z

Fjordpining: Added further detail in the statements

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Figma has sent cease and desist letters to companies, including the Swedish AI startup Lovable<ref>{{Cite web |last=Osika |first=Anton |date=2025-04-15 |title=figma says we can't use the word "dev mode" in lovable |url=https://x.com/antonosika/status/1912147137728589915/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250416022818/https://x.com/antonosika/status/1912147137728589915/ |archive-date=2025-04-16 |access-date=2025-07-17 |website=X}}</ref>, for using the term "Dev Mode," claiming it infringes on their trademark<ref>{{Cite patent |country=US|number=98045640|inventor=FIGMA, INC.|title=DEV MODE|pubdate=2024-11-19 |fdate=2023-06-16|url=https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98045640&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch}}</ref>. This action has sparked controversy and criticism within the tech community, with many arguing that "Dev Mode" is a widely used and generic term in the industry.

==Background==
===Companies===
As to understand how does this companies use the term "Dev Mode", we have to further analyze what their products do.

Figma is a design platform, being widely used in software development.

Lovable is a no code app using a chat powered by the Claude LLM<ref>{{Cite web |title=Lovable helps anyone create software 20x faster with Claude |url=https://www.anthropic.com/customers/lovable |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250514042824/https://www.anthropic.com/customers/lovable |archive-date=2025-05-14 |access-date=2025-07-18 |website=Anthropic}}</ref> for the user to instert the prompts and having a website fully functional<ref>{{Cite web |title=Welcome - Lovable Documentation |url=https://docs.lovable.dev/introduction/welcome |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250716144523/https://docs.lovable.dev/introduction/welcome |archive-date=2025-07-16 |access-date=2025-07-18 |website=Lovable}}</ref>
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!Company
!Dev Mode claim in their website
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|Figma
|Dev Mode gives you the power to easily inspect designs and translate them into code—without changing the design file.
|-
|Lovable
|you can now view the full code repository backing your Lovable project directly in the Lovable Editor.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2025-03-12 |title=Versioning, Dev Mode & Lovable Livestream with Clerk |url=https://lovable.dev/blog/versioning-dev-mode |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250707181544/https://lovable.dev/blog/versioning-dev-mode |archive-date=2025-07-07 |access-date=2025-07-18 |website=Lovable}}</ref>
|}
*'''Historical Use''': The term "Dev Mode" has been used in the tech industry since at least 2004, according to Google Trends data.
*'''Legal Precedents''': While trademarking common terms is not unprecedented, the tech community is particularly sensitive to such actions, especially when they affect smaller companies and open-source projects.

==[Incident]==
Figma, a popular online design and collaboration tool, has recently taken legal action against several companies for using the term "Dev Mode." The company has trademarked this term and has been sending cease and desist letters to smaller startups, demanding they stop using it. This move has generated significant controversy and criticism within the tech community.

===Theo - t3․gg's response===

Theo begins by highlighting a letter from Figma's general counsel, demanding that companies cease using the 'Dev Mode' trademark. He expresses his astonishment and disapproval, referring to this as one of the most ridiculous things he's witnessed in the tech industry. Theo shares his insights into the implications of such protective actions for Figma's brand image and its place in the market.

In the middle section, Theo goes on to discuss Figma's attempts to expand beyond its design roots into the development sector, mentioning tools like 'Dev Mode'. Despite these efforts, Theo believes Figma is failing to capture the developer market as intended. He explores the impact of AI on the design process, noting that AI tools have substantially altered the need for traditional design software.

Towards the end, Theo delves into the significance of trademark protection and how it relates to Figma's aggressive stance. He draws parallels to past trademark disputes, such as those involving Microsoft and Oracle. Theo considers Figma's current legal approach as desperate and suggests it may backfire, especially with an IPO on the horizon and a rapidly changing industry.
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==References==
Theo - t3․gg. “Figma threatens companies using "Dev Mode."” ''YouTube'', 16 April 2025, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73EGVfKNr0. Accessed 21 April 2025. Preservetube: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=P73EGVfKNr0
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Talk:Main Page

2025-07-18T06:33:36Z

Fjordpining: /* Add a patent as a source */ new section

==Looking good==

Looks like we are doing alright so far with this page; lol... people go ahead of me - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 02:51, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

==Can we categorize this?==

Just to clean up [[Special:UncategorizedPages]]. I suggest putting this page under [[:Category:CAT]]. [[User:Waldo|Waldo]] ([[User talk:Waldo|talk]]) 08:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Moved this into the CAT category so it isn't eaten by special pages as requested; looks like it may have already been in the root namespace but just for clarity sake until we build a full on mainpage. Thanks for the catch <3 - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 11:36, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

==Anonymization of non-logged in user IPs==

I would like to request that users who make edits without user accounts do not have their full IP published in the edit log.

:I made a suggestion on the Discord server on your behalf. [[User:Waldo|Waldo]] ([[User talk:Waldo|talk]]) 10:44, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:For that there is an extension called AnonPrivacy https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnonPrivacy [[User:Fen|Fen]] ([[User talk:Fen|talk]]) 22:02, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
::Greetings, I made the suggestion to the team on your behalf. At the momment, there is no plan or intention to anonymize IPs for non-logged in users. It helps with accountability as knowing the IP will be visible deterring bad behavior. It also makes moderation easier. Realistically the only alternative is hashing the ip which complex and destroys the core principles that the wiki is about. [[User:Fen|Fen]] ([[User talk:Fen|talk]]) 23:16, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

== Add a patent as a source ==

My interest in this woke up when editing [[Figma threatens companies using "Dev Mode"|this article]], and following the [[wikipedia:Template:Cite_patent|Wikipedia page to cite from a patent]], when previewing the article the reference wasn't rendered properly. I don't know if I screwed up something or really the site doesn't support yet the use of this format. Hope someone could illustrate me on how to move on with this [[User:Fjordpining|Fjordpining]] ([[User talk:Fjordpining|talk]]) 06:33, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

User:Fjordpining

2025-07-18T06:27:32Z

Fjordpining: feat: added initial bio page

=About me=
As most of the people in here, I ended up because of Louis, entering in my way of having the right of really owning what someone buys, and having the freedom to do so without any hidden TOS.
*Advocate for libre software
*Linux nerd
*Looking into interesting open hardware projects (the DIY keyboards are one of my favorite yet)
*Privacy <s>paranoic</s> enthusiast

User talk:Fjordpining

2025-07-18T06:21:46Z

Fjordpining: /* Davis WeatherLink discussion */ Reply

==Davis WeatherLink discussion==

Hello and welcome to the wiki! Just a heads up the David WeatherLink article you have created needs more info (other trustworthy sources) on why the subscription/product is against consumer rights (I.e, does it need cloud services to work, were features on pro and pro+ on the free tier initially, was the subscription added after device release, etc.)

If you can provide more info regarding the product and why it’s against consumer rights that would be great. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 21:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, thank you for the feedback, currently investigating forward to provide a better base for the article. Editing and publishing ASAP [[User:Fjordpining|Fjordpining]] ([[User talk:Fjordpining|talk]]) 04:15, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
:Hey there again, just submitted my changes, hope this article can fit into the wiki guidelines as I see it fit for the nature of the current Davis software. The changes can be seen [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Davis_WeatherLink&oldid=17340 here]. If anything else for this article to be taken in account is missing, don't hesitate to reach out. Again, thank you very much for the feedback [[User:Fjordpining|Fjordpining]] ([[User talk:Fjordpining|talk]]) 06:21, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

User talk:Fjordpining

2025-07-18T04:15:57Z

Fjordpining: /* Davis WeatherLink discussion */ Reply

Figma threatens companies using "Dev Mode"

2025-07-17T18:12:56Z

Fjordpining: feat: added sources for page (further discussion in citing patents)

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Figma has sent cease and desist letters to companies, including the Swedish AI startup Lovable<ref>{{Cite web |last=Osika |first=Anton |date=2025-04-15 |title=figma says we can't use the word "dev mode" in lovable |url=https://x.com/antonosika/status/1912147137728589915/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250416022818/https://x.com/antonosika/status/1912147137728589915/ |archive-date=2025-04-16 |access-date=2025-07-17 |website=X}}</ref>, for using the term "Dev Mode," claiming it infringes on their trademark<ref>{{Cite patent |country=US|number=98045640|inventor=FIGMA, INC.|title=DEV MODE|pubdate=2024-11-19 |fdate=2023-06-16|url=https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98045640&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch}}</ref>. This action has sparked controversy and criticism within the tech community, with many arguing that "Dev Mode" is a widely used and generic term in the industry.

==Background==
'''Figma's Dev Mode''': Figma's "Dev Mode" is a feature that helps streamline the handoff between designers and developers by displaying CSS properties and other developer-friendly information.

*'''Lovable's Dev Mode''': Lovable's "Dev Mode" allows users to edit the code generated by its AI, enabling non-coders to build applications more easily.
*'''Historical Use''': The term "Dev Mode" has been used in the tech industry since at least 2004, according to Google Trends data.
*'''Legal Precedents''': While trademarking common terms is not unprecedented, the tech community is particularly sensitive to such actions, especially when they affect smaller companies and open-source projects.
*

==[Incident]==
Figma, a popular online design and collaboration tool, has recently taken legal action against several companies for using the term "Dev Mode." The company has trademarked this term and has been sending cease and desist letters to smaller startups, demanding they stop using it. This move has generated significant controversy and criticism within the tech community.

===Theo - t3․gg's response===

Theo begins by highlighting a letter from Figma's general counsel, demanding that companies cease using the 'Dev Mode' trademark. He expresses his astonishment and disapproval, referring to this as one of the most ridiculous things he's witnessed in the tech industry. Theo shares his insights into the implications of such protective actions for Figma's brand image and its place in the market.

In the middle section, Theo goes on to discuss Figma's attempts to expand beyond its design roots into the development sector, mentioning tools like 'Dev Mode'. Despite these efforts, Theo believes Figma is failing to capture the developer market as intended. He explores the impact of AI on the design process, noting that AI tools have substantially altered the need for traditional design software.

Towards the end, Theo delves into the significance of trademark protection and how it relates to Figma's aggressive stance. He draws parallels to past trademark disputes, such as those involving Microsoft and Oracle. Theo considers Figma's current legal approach as desperate and suggests it may backfire, especially with an IPO on the horizon and a rapidly changing industry.
{{Placeholder box|Summary and key issues of prevailing sentiment from the consumers and commentators that can be documented via articles, emails to support, reviews and forum posts.}}

==References==
Theo - t3․gg. “Figma threatens companies using "Dev Mode."” ''YouTube'', 16 April 2025, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73EGVfKNr0. Accessed 21 April 2025. Preservetube: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=P73EGVfKNr0
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{{Category:Figma}}