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MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-10T23:29:35Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{Cleanup}}
{{IncidentCargo|Company=MSI|Status=Ongoing|Product=Motherboards|ArticleType=Incident|StartDate=2022}}
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead hiding the battery behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly,<ref name=":3">[[:File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png]]</ref> and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout.

==Background==
For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple standardized battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly<ref name=":3" />. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is strongly recommended. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works. Plug the lead in to the mainboard socket.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}

English Manual Page Links:

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

Talk:MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-10T23:12:08Z

LizzyLamia: /* this is an incident */ Reply

==More Details==

Please add a photo with VRM heatsink installed to show how hard (or easy) to remove it and access the CR2032. Compare it with "This product contains an irreplaceable battery" claim. [[User:Charlie 6|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6|talk]]) 12:33, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

:I appended an "Assembled" Photo in the references section when I wrote the article. I'm somewhat new to writing wiki's so I wasn't quite too sure where/ how to append such information. But any included examples of a specific mainboard is also sort of missing the greater point, which is that the '''entire current product lineup''' from MSI has this hardware configuration. It's not just the Z890 board, it's ALL of them. [[User:LizzyLamia|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia|talk]]) 18:46, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
::I added the photo with caption, please check and proofread. [[User:Charlie 6|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6|talk]]) 09:48, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

==If anyone else has a current MSI Mainboard and can assist with filling this wiki page out. Please do.==

Each motherboard model seems to have a unique and specific "hiding location" for the CMOS battery. All the manual entries list "This product contains an Irreplaceable Battery" but the exact obfuscation/location of the battery varies from model to model. Most of the high end boards * MAG and MPG * seem to have it located underneath the VRM Heatsink. Others seem to have it buried under heatsinks on other board locations. I don't have the resources, nor patience to hunt down the battery placement board-by-board. There are some models that contain this text in the manual that have overtly displayed CR2032 batteries in the product promotion images, like normal boards ought to. I very much doubt anyone really cares enough to help out, but, on the off chance they do. Thank you very much. [[User:LizzyLamia|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia|talk]]) 19:50, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

:I got a MSI mobo so I checked inside my case to see if its CMOS battery be hidden. Couldn't find it so did a model number search and on their site they had pictures. The CMOS battery is hidden on mine, but behind the GPU (lol). Granted its a 2023 board so not "current". Product images could be a way we can identify which boards have obfuscated CMOS batts. [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 21:38, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
::actually my board's much older I just bought it on 2023. regardless I took a glance at their current selection and noticed a lot of them use cover plates that may or may not hide the CR2032. checking images is a manual process but checking manuals can be automated. under the "Overview of Components" section in the PDF they showcase a "battery" in a CR2032-like enclosure or just a circular battery icon. out of the first 6 boards from the [https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products#?tag=MAG-Series MAG series] half of them show the use of a battery. [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 21:57, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Thank you for looking! It seems to be only the higher end of their product line-up (MEG & MPG) has this new battery location, and only on their recently released boards. Prior to the 2025/2026 release cycle they all had standard mounts in obscure places. I have no issue with board designers hiding the battery out of view, behind the GPU or under a quick release NVME heat-sink, but not being able to even disconnect it for testing purposes without disassembling the whole top-side of the board makes the computer much more difficult to service. The whole reason I even noticed this, was my new MSI Box has had some stability issues, and I went to pull the CMOS batt, just to do a clean hard reset and had that ... "Wait... Where is it?" , moment. Which led to research, nagging my friend who owns a computer repair shop about it, etc etc. [[User:LizzyLamia|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

==Notability discussion==

This is obviously well put together article, and a relevant repairability issue, but I have concerns about its notability, since this seems to be original research by the author (see: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Wiki_content_policies#Verifiability).

At a minimum, we should at least have a citation pointing to some discussion of this issue online

If there's no external sources for it, it might be something that's better hosted in userspace (i.e. /User:[Username]/[Pagename]). [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 22:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

:I found a discussion on MSI's Forum and a post on their FAQ addressing the CMOS battery. I will add these as citations [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 09:53, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

==Workarounds==

There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector already soldered available for purchase on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

:considering to move it to a GUIDE: than outright deletion [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 15:24, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

==this is an incident==

@[[User:LizzyLamia|LizzyLamia]] if you check out [[Template:IncidentPreload]] that it is how incident articles should be. ofc they aren't always but we try to remain as close to it as we can. perhaps the lawsuit and MSI's response part could be excused as idt they care. but consumer response, the tl;dr and background sections need to stay. [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 12:29, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

:o7 [[User:LizzyLamia|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia|talk]]) 23:12, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-05T05:06:15Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly<ref name=":3">[[:File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png]]</ref>, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple standardized battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly<ref name=":3" />. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is strongly recommended. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}

English Manual Page Links:

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T23:52:09Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */ appended another citation to the same photo

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly<ref name=":3">[[:File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png]]</ref>, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple standardized battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly<ref name=":3" />. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}

English Manual Page Links:

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T23:46:36Z

LizzyLamia: /* Background */

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly<ref>[[:File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png]]</ref>, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple standardized battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}

English Manual Page Links:

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T23:43:48Z

LizzyLamia: Removed some uneeded reference links I added originally before I knew how to cite stuff in wiki-code.

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly<ref>[[:File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png]]</ref>, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}

English Manual Page Links:

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T23:39:37Z

LizzyLamia: Added photos comparing an assembled Z890 and disassembled Z890 to show battery location.

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly<ref>[[:File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png]]</ref>, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

File:CSWiki MSIZ890Assembled Labeled.png

2026-03-04T23:36:19Z

LizzyLamia: A photo of an fully assembled 2025 MSI MPGZ890 Edge Wifi motherboard with the VRM heatsink clearly labeled, along with the approximate location of the CMOS CR2032 coin battery located beneath it.

== Summary ==
A photo of an fully assembled 2025 MSI MPGZ890 Edge Wifi motherboard with the VRM heatsink clearly labeled, along with the approximate location of the CMOS CR2032 coin battery located beneath it.
== Licensing ==
{{Stolen}}

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T23:16:33Z

LizzyLamia: Appended a Photo of a manual page to citations.

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref><ref>[[:File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI IrreplaceableBatt.png]]</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T23:11:07Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and follow the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T21:41:48Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T09:32:28Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |others=Archive didn't preserve the image, Use the Live Link if you need to see the picture. |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T09:29:34Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products appear to match the MSI mainboard plug<ref>{{Cite web |title=MSI Laptop Cell Discussion Thread |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304092350/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |website=MSI Forums}}</ref>, though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T09:05:22Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T09:02:23Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolesence#Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T09:01:20Z

LizzyLamia: /* References */

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended [[Workarounds|effort]].

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:57:06Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort<ref>[[MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence#Workarounds|MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence]]</ref>.

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:54:50Z

LizzyLamia: /* CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals */

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort<ref>[[Page Name#Section Title|MSI_Motherboard_CMOS_Battery_Obsolescence#]]Workarounds</ref>.

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:49:04Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

Due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:40:35Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==CMOS Battery Obsolescence & Misleading Language in User Manuals==
MSI Mainboard (2025-2026 Models, MEG & MPG Product lines) CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This statement is false. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to lead consumers to believe that the mainboard is obsolete when the battery dies. Circumventing this requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:31:21Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. CMOS battery removal has always simply required pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot on the face of the motherboard, and, if needed, putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

In addition to inconvenience and obfuscation, there is the potential that the location of the battery near the high temperature heatsink may shorten the lifespan of the cell. The operating temperature of a CR2032 coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:26:13Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply, at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

The operating temperature of a CR coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>. Mounting the CMOS battery at or very close to the VRM heatsink can reduce the battery life.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T08:25:19Z

LizzyLamia:

{{Cleanup}}
==Background==
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead, MSI has begun shipping board designs where the CMOS battery is hidden behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref> This substantially complicates servicing/repair of devices that are assembled using mainboards that have this layout. For more than 40 years CMOS batteries have been standard CR2032<ref name=":2" /> batteries that are available, cheaply at any store, and mounted in an accessible location. This new board design means testing the battery now necessitates a full device disassembly, and replacing it requires a specific replacement part, with a specific plug interface, or the type of equipment that only a professional repair shop would have. This pointlessly adds more consumer cost and increases the likelihood of an entirely functional devices being disposed of due to the failure of a simple battery.

==MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

The operating temperature of a CR coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>. Mounting the CMOS battery at or very close to the VRM heatsink can reduce the battery life.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery. Alternatively, replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug], though this is unconfirmed. If you have obtained one of these and the connector fits, you will not need a tack welder or shrink wrap in the steps below.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*If you are using a standard CR2032 replacement battery :
**Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
**Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
**Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Your CMOS battery has now been changed. Reassemble the device, and test .
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-04T00:42:02Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{Cleanup}}
{{IncidentCargo|Company=MSI|Status=Ongoing|Product=Motherboards|ArticleType=Incident|StartDate=2022}}
Recent [[MSI]] motherboards have moved on from easily accessible clip-mount holders for their CMOS batteries. Instead hiding the battery behind the {{Wplink|voltage regulator module}} (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=benjy124302a4 |date=2022-04-15 |title=MSI Pro B660M-A CMOS battery location? |url=https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302095843/https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-pro-b660m-a-cmos-battery-location.374514/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global English Forum}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date=2023-11-29 |title=Where is the location of CMOS battery on this motherboard? |url=https://www.msi.com/faq/9918 |url-status=live |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

==Background==
{{Ph-I-B}}

==MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the VRM heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code><ref>{{Cite web |title=MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf |url=https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302100807/https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf#page=104 |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=MSI Global}}</ref>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

The operating temperature of a CR coin cell is typically -30°C to 85°C, it's recommended to consult the manufacturer should the temperature exceeds 70°C<ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-07-01 |title=CR2032 CR Coin-type Lithium Battery |url=https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101209/https://energy.panasonic.com/dam/master/pdf/en/datasheet/lithium/CR2032_Datasheet_EN_240701.pdf |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=Panasonic Energy}}</ref>. VRMs typically run at higher temperatures typically around 80°C to 90°C, with safe operating temperature exceeding 100°C<ref>{{Cite web |last=u/jayyywhattt |date=2022-01-07 |title=Motherboard, vrm temperatures |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260302101503/https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ry9cdc/motherboard_vrm_temperatures/ |archive-date=2026-03-02 |access-date=2026-03-02 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref>. Mounting the CMOS battery at or very close to the VRM heatsink can reduce the battery life.

===MSI's response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb|MSI Z890 Edge TI Wifi Mainboard with VRM heatsink removed and CMOS battery highlighted]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*[Unconfirmed] : Replacement CR2032 for MSI Laptops that ship with the lead are available from third party vendors. The connectors from these products [https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cmos-battery-replacement.391638/ appear to match the MSI mainboard plug]. If you have obtained one of these, skip the next 3 steps.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tack-welder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape or heat shrink-wrap.
*Re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.
==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:MSI]]

Talk:MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-03T23:47:41Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */ Reply

Talk:MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-03-01T16:18:33Z

LizzyLamia: /* If anyone else has a current MSI Mainboard and can assist with filling this wiki page out. Please do. */ Reply

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-27T19:57:42Z

LizzyLamia: /* Products */

{{Cleanup}}
{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI MEG & MPG Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

MSI MAG Motherboards (2025-2026) still have standard clip-holder mounts for their batteries. ( Though the manual still reads "This product contains an irreplaceable battery" ).

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGZ890 GODLIKE, Manual pg. 104 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:Computers]]

Talk:MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-27T19:50:51Z

LizzyLamia: /* If anyone else has a current MSI Mainboard and can assist with filling this wiki page out. Please do. */ new section

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-27T19:43:08Z

LizzyLamia: /* Consumer-impact summary */

{{Cleanup}}
{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. Some of the lower-end tier models of MSI motherboard still have a clip-mount, but it is blocked by heatsinks (that are not part of the VRM assembly). All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGZ890 GODLIKE, Manual pg. 104 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-27T19:04:20Z

LizzyLamia: /* References */

{{Cleanup}}
{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

MSI MEGZ890 GODLIKE, Manual pg. 104 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890GODLIKE_English.pdf

MSI MEGX879E ACE MAX, Manual pg. 84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGX870EACEMAX_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ890 UNIFY X, Manual pg. 89 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890UNIFY-X_English.pdf

MSI MEGZ790 GODLIKE, Manual pg.81 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ790GODLIKE_EN.pdf

MSI MPGX879E CARBON MAX, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGX870ECARBONMAXWIFI_English.pdf

MSI MPGZ890 ACE, Manual pg.84 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MEGZ890ACE_English.pdf

MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI PZ, Manual pg.79 https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKMAXWIFIPZ_English.pdf

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Talk:MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-27T18:46:30Z

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MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T18:47:42Z

LizzyLamia: /* Consumer-impact summary */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
MSI Mainboard CMOS CR2032 batteries are no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:21:07Z

LizzyLamia: Added image to Workarounds

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|397x397px|thumb]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:14:05Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
[[File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png|alt=CMOS Battery Location|right|370x370px]]
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
* Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:08:53Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the correct polarity battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:07:05Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board opposing the VRM assembly. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:03:36Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals, though be mindful, that tape adhesive will weaken over time, leading to possible loose connections. Tack welding is preferable. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:01:50Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Carefully unplug that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals though this solution will weaken over time. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T11:00:32Z

LizzyLamia: /* Consumer-impact summary */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years of mainboard design, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Remove that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals though this solution will weaken over time. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:54:11Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

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[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'irreplaceable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Remove that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals though this solution will weaken over time. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:53:01Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'unreplacable' battery.
*Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
*Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
*Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
*If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Remove that cable if present.
*Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
*Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
*Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals though this solution will weaken over time. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
*Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
*Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
*Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations! Your CMOS battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:48:12Z

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'unreplacable' battery.
* Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
* Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
* Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
* If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Remove that cable if present.
* Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
* Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and un-mount the leads from the battery surface by either force, desoldering, or clipping them.
* Solder each lead to a piece of nickle strip, and use a tackwelder to re-anchor each strip to the battery surface. Alternatively, simply wrap some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals though this solution will weaken over time. Upon completing this assembly to your satisfaction, move on to the next step.
* Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this. Hotglue also works.
* Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
* Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations. Your battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:42:42Z

LizzyLamia:

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this misleading language in the manual and obfuscated location of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies. Replacement requires service from an experienced technician, leading to more device turnover. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required locating the battery on the face of the mainboard, pressing a clearly marked tab and removing the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a replacement one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'unreplacable' battery.
* Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
* Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
* Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
* If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Remove that cable if present.
* Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
* Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and use a tackwelder or some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals and replace the battery. Low thermal tack welding with nickle strips is preferred for longevity purposes, absent the tools to do that, tape will suffice.
* Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this.
* Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
* Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations. Your battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:34:59Z

LizzyLamia:

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}
[[File:MSIBatteryZoom.png|alt=MSI CMOS Battery Page in Manual |thumb|MSI Manual Citation |none]]

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a line of text in the user manual that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this language in the manual and the hiding of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies, or at the very least require service from an advanced technician, leading to more device turnover. This is unacceptable. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required popping the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a new one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Workarounds==
If your CMOS battery dies and needs replacing, here are some steps to follow to replace your 'unreplacable' battery.
* Obtain a new standard CR2032 battery.
* Un-mount your mainboard from your computer case and look for several screws on the reverse side of the board. Removing these allows you to remove the VRM heatsink.
* Be mindful of the exposed thermal pads, and keep them clean while performing this process. Cover exposed pads with plastic wrap if your work environment is not clean.
* If your model contains an RGB lighting assembly on the VRM heatsink watch for the cable that is attached to the mainboard to enable this. Remove that cable if present.
* Locate the CMOS battery and unplug the leads. The leads should be a pair of black and red wires leading to a miniature mainboard plug. Unplug the connector.
* Dismantle the wrapping on the battery unit itself and use a tackwelder or some electricians tape to re-anchor leads to the terminals and replace the battery. Low thermal tack welding with nickle strips is preferred for longevity purposes, absent the tools to do that, tape will suffice.
* Encase the new battery with electrical tape and re-mount it near the original location. Standard double sided foam tape should function nicely for this.
* Replace the VRM heatsink, ensuring good contact across all thermal pads, and reconnecting the RGB lighting connector if it is present.
* Re-Anchor the screws on the opposing side of the PCB.

Congratulations. Your battery has now been changed.

==Products==
MSI Motherboards 2025-2026(Current)

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

[[Category:Computers]]

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:17:44Z

LizzyLamia: /* Consumer-impact summary */

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:16:16Z

LizzyLamia:

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:13:21Z

LizzyLamia:

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:08:33Z

LizzyLamia:

MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-26T10:03:53Z

LizzyLamia: LizzyLamia moved page MSI Personal Computer Motherboards - Reduced Ease of Reparability to MSI Personal Computer Motherboards - CMOS Battery Obsolescence

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==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a manual entry that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this language in the manual and the hiding of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies, or at the very least require service from an advanced technician, leading to more device turnover. This is unacceptable. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required popping the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a new one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Incidents==

...

==Products==
MSI Motherboards

==See also==
{{Ph-C-SA}}

==References==
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https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

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https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

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MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence

2026-02-25T12:04:57Z

LizzyLamia:

{{ProductLineCargo|ReleaseYear=2025-Current|Website=https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products|InProduction=Yes|Company=MicroStar International (MSI)|Category=PC Motherboards}}

==Consumer-impact summary==
Mainboard CMOS CR2032 battery is no longer contained within a standard easily accessible clip-mount holder. Instead the CMOS battery is hidden beneath the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) heatsink assembly, and is affixed to the mainboard via a lead, and mounted with adhesives and shrink-wrap plastic. All current models (2025-2026) of motherboard have a manual entry that states the following:

<code>● This product contains an irreplaceable battery.</code>

This is False. The battery is a standard CR2032 battery. It is not rechargeable, or unique, and is replaceable, with some extended effort.

While the battery remains a standard CR2032 coin battery, and the mounting mechanism is not completely inaccessible, due to this language in the manual and the hiding of the battery, it is a blatant attempt to make the mainboard obsolete when the battery dies, or at the very least require service from an advanced technician, leading to more device turnover. This is unacceptable. For 40 years, replacing a CMOS battery has required popping the old battery out of the standardized component clip slot, and putting a new one in its place. There is no reason to have changed this.

==Incidents==

...

==Products==
MSI Motherboards

==See also==
{{Ph-C-SA}}

==References==
{{reflist}}
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI_IrreplaceableBatt.png

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki_MSIZ890Assembled.jpg

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/File:CSWiki-MainboardBatteryMSI.png

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