Leadwerks - Revision history

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	'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Software \|url=https://www.leadwerks.com/community/store/category/1-software/ \|url-status=live \|access-date=3 Sep 2025 \|website=Leadwerks Community}}</ref>		'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Software \|url=https://www.leadwerks.com/community/store/category/1-software/ \|url-status=live \|access-date=3 Sep 2025 \|website=Leadwerks Community \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251129171403/https://www.leadwerks.com/community/store/category/1-software/ \|archive-date=29 Nov 2025}}</ref>

	==Consumer impact summary==		==Consumer impact summary==

Bythmusters: Added Cargo template in place of Infobox, moved to Product

2026-01-29T19:02:16Z

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	\| ~~Title~~ = ~~Leadwerks~~		\|ArticleType=Product
	\| ~~Release Year~~ =~~2025~~		\|Category=Video Games, Software
	\| ~~Product Type~~ =Software ~~PC gaming engine~~		\|Company=Leadwerks Software
	\| ~~In Production~~ =Yes~~, in development~~		\|Description=
	\| ~~Official~~ Website =https://www.leadwerks.com/		\|InProduction=Yes
	~~\| Logo = Leadwerks.svg~~		\|Logo=Leadwerks.svg
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			\|ReleaseYear=2025
			\|Website=https://www.leadwerks.com/
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	'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Software \|url=https://www.leadwerks.com/community/store/category/1-software/ \|url-status=live \|access-date=3 Sep 2025 \|website=Leadwerks Community}}</ref>		'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Software \|url=https://www.leadwerks.com/community/store/category/1-software/ \|url-status=live \|access-date=3 Sep 2025 \|website=Leadwerks Community}}</ref>

ClippyFellow47: Super minor grammar edits to improve tone.

2025-12-13T18:00:09Z

Super minor grammar edits to improve tone.

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	==Consumer impact summary==		==Consumer impact summary==
	* User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the ~~rights~~ to use the program as it is at the time of purchase. The purchased version cannot be used offline ~~or online~~.{{Citation needed}} Only specific releases selected by Leadwerks are available.		*User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the right to use the program as it is at the time of purchase. The purchased version cannot be used either online or offline.{{Citation needed}} Only specific releases selected by Leadwerks are available.

	==Incidents==		==Incidents==

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2025-11-28T16:42:23Z

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	==Consumer impact summary==		==Consumer impact summary==
	~~<nowiki>~~*~~</nowiki>~~ User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the rights to use the program as it is at the time of purchase. The purchased version cannot be used offline or online.{{Citation needed}} Only specific releases selected by Leadwerks are available.		* User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the rights to use the program as it is at the time of purchase. The purchased version cannot be used offline or online.{{Citation needed}} Only specific releases selected by Leadwerks are available.

	==Incidents==		==Incidents==

Illerfish2: Added one citation. In previous edit, I also removed original research (forgot to mention it)

2025-09-04T04:02:46Z

Added one citation. In previous edit, I also removed original research (forgot to mention it)

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	'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.		'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Software \|url=https://www.leadwerks.com/community/store/category/1-software/ \|url-status=live \|access-date=3 Sep 2025 \|website=Leadwerks Community}}</ref>

	==Consumer impact summary==		==Consumer impact summary==

Illerfish2: Tone edit, updated some information, added "citation needed" warnings where applicable, deleted some irrelevant information

2025-09-04T04:01:05Z

Tone edit, updated some information, added "citation needed" warnings where applicable, deleted some irrelevant information

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-| Title = Ultra Engine
+| Title = Leadwerks
 | Release Year =2025
 | Product Type =Software PC gaming engine
 | In Production =Yes, in development
-| Official Website =https://www.ultraengine.com
+| Official Website =https://www.leadwerks.com/
 | Logo = Leadwerks.svg
 }}
-'''Leadwerks is''' a gaming engine that shares multiple types of licenses, one of them being perpetual ( for a single user ).
+'''Leadwerks''' is a gaming engine, formerly known as Ultra Engine, created by Leadwerks Software. The engine is currently in early access and offers royalty-free licenses through either a $99.99 perpetual license or a $5.99/month subscription license.
 ==Consumer impact summary==
-<nowiki>*</nowiki> User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the rights to use the program “AS IS” at the time of purchase. You cannot use your purchased version offline or online. Only specific releases are available and those are dictated by the company.
+<nowiki>*</nowiki> User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the rights to use the program as it is at the time of purchase. The purchased version cannot be used offline or online.{{Citation needed}} Only specific releases selected by Leadwerks are available.
 ==Incidents==
 This is a list of all consumer protection incidents related to this product. Any incidents not mentioned here can be found in the [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}} category]].
-===Incident on company rebranding===
+===Perpetual license blocking===
-'''Changing of the brand forced all users to upgrade to the new client. Users had new requirements to use in the login page (the email instead of username).'''
+When Ultra Engine rebranded as Leadwerks, they required all users to update to a newer version of the client.{{Citation needed}} The new client prompted users to log in with their email address instead of their username, which blocked users with a perpetual license from accessing their installation until they re-verified that their perpetual license was active.{{Citation needed}}
 ==References==
 {{reflist}}
 [[Category:{{PAGENAME}}]]

Illerfish2: Illerfish2 moved page Ex Ultra Engine (Leadworks) game engine to Leadwerks: Game engine was renamed

2025-09-03T22:11:45Z

Illerfish2 moved page Ex Ultra Engine (Leadworks) game engine to Leadwerks: Game engine was renamed

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Mingyee: Mingyee moved page Ex Ultra Engine ( Leadworks ) game engine to Ex Ultra Engine (Leadworks) game engine without leaving a redirect: Misspelled title: Parentheses should not be internally padded by spaces

2025-08-27T12:06:06Z

Mingyee moved page Ex Ultra Engine ( Leadworks ) game engine to Ex Ultra Engine (Leadworks) game engine without leaving a redirect: Misspelled title: Parentheses should not be internally padded by spaces

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User: Updated title and added evidence

2025-04-04T09:40:31Z

Updated title and added evidence

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	This is a list of all consumer protection incidents related to this product. Any incidents not mentioned here can be found in the [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}\|{{PAGENAME}} category]].		This is a list of all consumer protection incidents related to this product. Any incidents not mentioned here can be found in the [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}\|{{PAGENAME}} category]].

	=== Incident on company rebranding ===		===Incident on company rebranding===
			'''Changing of the brand forced all users to upgrade to the new client. Users had new requirements to use in the login page (the email instead of username).'''

	~~=== Changing of the brand forced all users to upgrade to the new client. Users had new requirements to use in the login page (the email instead of username). ===~~
	This change blocked the installed version for users of perpetual license showing “Please use the client application to log into your Ultra Engine account and ensure your license is active”. The perpetual license should not ask for re-checking the validity of the license and should work with what is installed.		This change blocked the installed version for users of perpetual license showing “Please use the client application to log into your Ultra Engine account and ensure your license is active”. The perpetual license should not ask for re-checking the validity of the license and should work with what is installed.

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	A compliant solution should be: inside the user's account on the ultra engine site there should be a button to download the program at the time of purchase or a newer version use it on one or more computers where scripts can be built. By having the download button under the account on their site, the license is confirmed so there is no need to contact the server while using it.		A compliant solution should be: inside the user's account on the ultra engine site there should be a button to download the program at the time of purchase or a newer version use it on one or more computers where scripts can be built. By having the download button under the account on their site, the license is confirmed so there is no need to contact the server while using it.

	~~The request to fix the installed old version:~~

	~~<nowiki>https~~:~~//www.leadwerks.com/community/topic/68238~~-~~violation~~-of~~-end-user-~~license~~-agreement/</nowiki>~~		[[File:Screenshot 2025-04-04 092807.png\|thumb]]
			Evidence that the application was successfully installed on 28 of Jan 2025

			Installation is not possible without proving a valid license is used.

			The screenshot shows that the installed version is no longer usable. No configuration changes are provided to continue to use the installed code.

			The only option users are forced to use is to update everything to the latest client.

			This action is changing your local files including EULA and title of the application. You are no longer the owner of the version you purchased.






	[[File:Discord screenshot.png\|thumb]]		[[File:Discord screenshot.png\|thumb]]
	~~Incident on discord channel~~

			=== Incident on discord channel ===
	The owner of the program is available on discord and messages were posted in hopes it will attract some comments or provide a fix.		The owner of the program is available on discord and messages were posted in hopes it will attract some comments or provide a fix.

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	Results on discord request: There is no response from the owner hence no fix is expected.		Results on discord request: There is no response from the owner hence no fix is expected.

			The request to fix the installed old version or refund:

			<nowiki>https://www.leadwerks.com/community/topic/68238-violation-of-end-user-license-agreement/</nowiki>

	==See also==		==See also==

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2025-04-03T23:12:45Z

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	'''Leadwerks ~~program~~''' ~~is an~~ gaming engine that shares multiple types of licenses, one of them being perpetual ( for single user ).		'''Leadwerks is''' a gaming engine that shares multiple types of licenses, one of them being perpetual ( for a single user ).

	Game developers are required to code their game using the code that powers the engine. As this practice is tightly coupled with the interface of the gaming engine, games cannot be ported to other gaming engines. ~~Having~~ a ~~game~~ engine that ~~can be disabled remotely should convince you~~ to ~~not trust~~ the ~~owner of~~ the ~~engine and save yourself from losing years of your work~~.		Game developers are required to code their game using the code that powers the engine. As this practice is tightly coupled with the interface of the gaming engine, games cannot be ported to other gaming engines. Choosing a gaming engine that is offering royalty-free license is a big win and game developers would have more interest in it, to avoid the challenges Unity engine managed to do in 2023 with their new pricing model, the "Runtime Fee".

	~~The software~~ is ~~adding more and more features that track~~ your ~~work. Yes, you can disable that but forcing you~~ to ~~update, they can add more code~~ to ~~simply bypass that~~.		Under the perpetual license a product should function as it is at the time of purchase, activation keys or whatever method is used to prove your license is valid does not need to reach a remote location to confirm it.

	~~If you want~~ to work offline, to avoid sharing your personal data~~, you are~~ not ~~allowed as it claims that you need~~ to ~~“prove~~ that you ~~have a valid license”~~		Unfortunately this program is not built like this and users will be forced to be online when using it. The option to work offline or block it in your firewall, to avoid sharing your personal data is completely removed.

			If users wish to avoid testing the latest bugs and not wish to update their program version, a practice that is required in all professional development environments where you should not use “latest” is also removed.

	==Consumer impact summary==		==Consumer impact summary==
	~~{{Placeholder box\|Overview of concerns that arise from the conduct towards users of the product (if applicable):~~		<nowiki>*</nowiki> User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give users the rights to use the program “AS IS” at the time of purchase. You cannot use your purchased version offline or online. Only specific releases are available and those are dictated by the company.
	* User Freedom: The perpetual license does not give ~~you~~ the rights to use the program “AS IS” at the time of purchase. You cannot use ~~the~~ purchased version offline~~, as they require you to be always connected to their server~~.
	* User Privacy: There is no safer way to work with such a product, other than using it from an internet-disconnected PC (or using a firewall). This product states in the EULA that it has data tracking by default~~, with the option to disable it ( which I have not tested ). The program is asking to be online for normal usage~~.		<nowiki>*</nowiki> User Privacy: There is no safer way to work with such a product, other than using it from an internet-disconnected PC (or using a firewall). This product states in the EULA that it has data tracking by default.
	* Business Model. ~~Because they are selling monthly subscriptions, the perpetual~~ license is treated as a ~~temporary license~~.
	}}		<nowiki>*</nowiki> Business Model. Perpetual license is treated as a monthly subscription and users cannot opt out to always call the server when starting the application.

	==Incidents==		==Incidents==
	This is a list of all consumer protection incidents related to this product. Any incidents not mentioned here can be found in the [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}\|{{PAGENAME}} category]].		This is a list of all consumer protection incidents related to this product. Any incidents not mentioned here can be found in the [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}\|{{PAGENAME}} category]].
	~~===Changing of the brand revealed that the program is actually remotely disabled===~~
	~~For many, the problem shared here may not seem as an issue, but I want to share that the practices implemented in the program are flexible enough to remove the rights under your purchase.~~

	~~I purchased a perpetual license at the beginning of 2025 with the goal of learning the engine and have a nice hobby. While I was learning some prerequisites for creating a game, the~~ company ~~decided to change the branding and go back to a previous used name.~~		=== Incident on company rebranding ===

	~~After a month or so I started~~ the ~~program and it was~~ showing ~~just an error~~ “Please use the client application to log into your Ultra Engine account and ensure your license is active”. The perpetual license should not ask for re-checking the validity of the license and should work with what is installed. The license was verified at the time of installation and I was not expecting this to be disabled. As a user I should be allowed to not install the new features and enjoy the version of the program as it was at the time of purchase.		=== Changing of the brand forced all users to upgrade to the new client. Users had new requirements to use in the login page (the email instead of username). ===
			This change blocked the installed version for users of perpetual license showing “Please use the client application to log into your Ultra Engine account and ensure your license is active”. The perpetual license should not ask for re-checking the validity of the license and should work with what is installed.

	The company changed the EULA with the new name and ~~also updated the login, so I can no longer use the credentials used when I purchased the product. This again shows that you have no ownership~~ of ~~the installed code~~.		The company changed the EULA with the new name and most references of Ultra engine were removed.

	As stated in the EULA “This SOFTWARE PRODUCT utilizes analytics to record statistics on actions performed within the software, in order to collect information to help improve the user experience. Analytics can be disabled in the program ~~settings~~.~~“ I wanted~~ to ~~move the program to a PC that has no internet connection ( also wanted~~ to ~~automate some builds in VMs ). This usage of the software is still compliant with the EULA agreement and is actually not possible with~~ the version ~~installed.~~		As stated in the EULA “This SOFTWARE PRODUCT utilizes analytics to record statistics on actions performed within the software, in order to collect information to help improve the user experience. Analytics can be disabled in the program settings”. The requirement to update to the new version users are required to do extra checks if new tracking options have been added

	Another line in the EULA “This SOFTWARE PRODUCT is for personal use only and may be used by the Licensee, on one or more computers”. There is no mention that it requires an internet connection to use it, nor that ~~I am~~ forced to update or that it can be disabled remotely.		Another line in the EULA “This SOFTWARE PRODUCT is for personal use only and may be used by the Licensee, on one or more computers”. There is no mention that it requires an internet connection to use it, nor that users are forced to update or that it can be disabled remotely.

	A compliant solution: inside the user's account on the ultra engine site there should be a button to download the program ~~and~~ use it ~~wherever we want/need and we~~ can ~~release games royalty-free~~. By having the download button under the account on their site, the license is confirmed so there is no need to contact the server while using it.		A compliant solution should be: inside the user's account on the ultra engine site there should be a button to download the program at the time of purchase or a newer version use it on one or more computers where scripts can be built. By having the download button under the account on their site, the license is confirmed so there is no need to contact the server while using it.

	~~I am not sure if what just happened is intentional, but with the decision~~ to ~~change~~ the ~~domain, this obvious problem popped up and I am not able to use what I purchased.~~		The request to fix the installed old version:

	~~The open ticket:~~		<nowiki>https://www.leadwerks.com/community/topic/68238-violation-of-end-user-license-agreement/</nowiki>

	https://www.leadwerks.com/community/topic/68238-violation-of-end-user-license-agreement/


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	The owner of the program is available on discord and I posted ~~there~~ in hopes it will ~~add~~ some comments or provide a fix.		The owner of the program is available on discord and messages were posted in hopes it will attract some comments or provide a fix.

	~~Unfortunately my message was ignored by the owner and others only offered me help to just update the client, without consideration of my initial request~~.

	~~I also checked recent release notes,~~ and ~~I did not find~~ the ~~fix that one~~ of the ~~users was mentioning. The assumption is, it will continue to require an internet connection for normal usage~~.		Unfortunately the message was ignored by the owner and others only offered just the forced solution to update the client, without consideration of the initial request.

	[ Page showing the release of the new client https://www.leadwerks.com/community/topic/61318-release-notes/page/29/ ]		Recent release notes, do not contain any details regarding not contacting remote servers for normal usage.
	[[File:Screenshot 2025-04-01 005812.png\|thumb]]		[ Page showing the release of the new client <nowiki>https://www.leadwerks.com/community/topic/61318-release-notes/page/29/</nowiki> ][[File:Screenshot 2025-04-01 005812.png\|thumb]]