Talk:Android Data Collection - Revision history

Rudxain: add more links

2025-11-29T15:40:30Z

add more links

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	*[https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.		*[https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
	*The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]		*The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because [[Google\|gluegle]] loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]

	Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint\|fingerprinting]]'''.		Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint\|fingerprinting]]'''.
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	:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.		:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.
	:Neither of whatsapp or disbloat disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services\|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:		:Neither of [[WhatsApp\|whatsapp]] or [[Discord\|disbloat]] disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services\|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:
	:* https://discord.com/privacy only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting		:* https://discord.com/privacy only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting
	:* https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy only mentions its backup service		:* https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy only mentions its backup service
	:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)		:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Rudxain: linkify PP

2025-11-29T15:35:40Z

linkify PP

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	:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.		:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.
	:Neither of whatsapp or disbloat disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services\|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:		:Neither of whatsapp or disbloat disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services\|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:
	:* ~~<nowiki>~~https://discord.com/privacy~~</nowiki>~~ only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting		:* https://discord.com/privacy only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting
	:* ~~<nowiki>~~https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy~~</nowiki>~~ only mentions its backup service		:* https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy only mentions its backup service
	:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)		:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Rudxain: /* 3p section */ Reply

2025-11-29T15:34:47Z

3p section: Reply

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	== 3p section ==		==3p section==

	We need a section about third-party tracking.		We need a section about third-party tracking.

	* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.		*[https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
	* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]		*The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]

	Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint\|fingerprinting]]'''.		Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint\|fingerprinting]]'''.

	[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

			:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.
			:Neither of whatsapp or disbloat disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services\|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:
			:* <nowiki>https://discord.com/privacy</nowiki> only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting
			:* <nowiki>https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy</nowiki> only mentions its backup service
			:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Rudxain: mention fingerprinting

2025-11-14T09:39:54Z

mention fingerprinting

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	* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.		* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
	* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]		* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]

			Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint\|fingerprinting]]'''.

	[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Rudxain: convert "external" link to internal

2025-11-14T05:30:03Z

convert "external" link to internal

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	* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.		* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
	* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [~~https://consumerrights.wiki/w/~~Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]		* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers \| gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]
	[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Rudxain: /* 3p section */ new section

2025-11-13T12:15:44Z

3p section: new section

New page

== 3p section ==

We need a section about third-party tracking.

* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]
[[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)