Talk:MSI Motherboard CMOS Battery Obsolescence - Revision history

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	::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)		::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

	== this is an incident ==		==this is an incident==

	@[[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] if you check out [[Template:IncidentPreload]] that it is how incident articles should be. ofc they aren't always but we try to remain as close to it as we can. perhaps the lawsuit and MSI's response part could be excused as idt they care. but consumer response, the tl;dr and background sections need to stay. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:29, 8 March 2026 (UTC)		@[[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] if you check out [[Template:IncidentPreload]] that it is how incident articles should be. ofc they aren't always but we try to remain as close to it as we can. perhaps the lawsuit and MSI's response part could be excused as idt they care. but consumer response, the tl;dr and background sections need to stay. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:29, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

			:o7 [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:12, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

SinexTitan: /* this is an incident */ new section

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	:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)		:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
	::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)		::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

			== this is an incident ==

			@[[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] if you check out [[Template:IncidentPreload]] that it is how incident articles should be. ofc they aren't always but we try to remain as close to it as we can. perhaps the lawsuit and MSI's response part could be excused as idt they care. but consumer response, the tl;dr and background sections need to stay. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:29, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

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	:considering to move it to a GUIDE: than outright deletion [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 15:24, 2 March 2026 (UTC)		:considering to move it to a GUIDE: than outright deletion [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 15:24, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
	:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)		:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
			::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

LizzyLamia: /* Workarounds */ Reply

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			:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

SinexTitan: /* Workarounds */ Reply

2026-03-02T15:24:30Z

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	There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector already soldered available for purchase on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)		There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector already soldered available for purchase on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

			:considering to move it to a GUIDE: than outright deletion [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 15:24, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Charlie 6: /* Workarounds */

2026-03-02T09:53:26Z

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	==Workarounds==		==Workarounds==

	There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector available on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)		There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector already soldered available for purchase on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

SinexTitan: /* Notability discussion */ Reply

2026-03-02T09:53:17Z

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	If there's no external sources for it, it might be something that's better hosted in userspace (i.e. /User:[Username]/[Pagename]). [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 22:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)		If there's no external sources for it, it might be something that's better hosted in userspace (i.e. /User:[Username]/[Pagename]). [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 22:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

	== Workarounds ==		:I found a discussion on MSI's Forum and a post on their FAQ addressing the CMOS battery. I will add these as citations [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 09:53, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

			==Workarounds==

	There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector available on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)		There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector available on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Charlie 6: /* Workarounds */ new section

2026-03-02T09:51:48Z

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	If there's no external sources for it, it might be something that's better hosted in userspace (i.e. /User:[Username]/[Pagename]). [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 22:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)		If there's no external sources for it, it might be something that's better hosted in userspace (i.e. /User:[Username]/[Pagename]). [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 22:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

			== Workarounds ==

			There are CMOS batteries with the cables and connector available on the market, welding or gluing on one's own is not worth the labor cost and can be dangerous due to risk of intermittent connection. Please edit the steps. The "Congratulations" seems to be AI generated [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Charlie 6: /* More Details */ Reply

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	:I appended an "Assembled" Photo in the references section when I wrote the article. I'm somewhat new to writing wiki's so I wasn't quite too sure where/ how to append such information. But any included examples of a specific mainboard is also sort of missing the greater point, which is that the '''entire current product lineup''' from MSI has this hardware configuration. It's not just the Z890 board, it's ALL of them. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 18:46, 27 February 2026 (UTC)		:I appended an "Assembled" Photo in the references section when I wrote the article. I'm somewhat new to writing wiki's so I wasn't quite too sure where/ how to append such information. But any included examples of a specific mainboard is also sort of missing the greater point, which is that the '''entire current product lineup''' from MSI has this hardware configuration. It's not just the Z890 board, it's ALL of them. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 18:46, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
			::I added the photo with caption, please check and proofread. [[User:Charlie 6\|Charlie 6]] ([[User talk:Charlie 6\|talk]]) 09:48, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

	==If anyone else has a current MSI Mainboard and can assist with filling this wiki page out. Please do.==		==If anyone else has a current MSI Mainboard and can assist with filling this wiki page out. Please do.==
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	:::Thank you for looking! It seems to be only the higher end of their product line-up (MEG & MPG) has this new battery location, and only on their recently released boards. Prior to the 2025/2026 release cycle they all had standard mounts in obscure places. I have no issue with board designers hiding the battery out of view, behind the GPU or under a quick release NVME heat-sink, but not being able to even disconnect it for testing purposes without disassembling the whole top-side of the board makes the computer much more difficult to service. The whole reason I even noticed this, was my new MSI Box has had some stability issues, and I went to pull the CMOS batt, just to do a clean hard reset and had that ... "Wait... Where is it?" , moment. Which led to research, nagging my friend who owns a computer repair shop about it, etc etc. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2026 (UTC)		:::Thank you for looking! It seems to be only the higher end of their product line-up (MEG & MPG) has this new battery location, and only on their recently released boards. Prior to the 2025/2026 release cycle they all had standard mounts in obscure places. I have no issue with board designers hiding the battery out of view, behind the GPU or under a quick release NVME heat-sink, but not being able to even disconnect it for testing purposes without disassembling the whole top-side of the board makes the computer much more difficult to service. The whole reason I even noticed this, was my new MSI Box has had some stability issues, and I went to pull the CMOS batt, just to do a clean hard reset and had that ... "Wait... Where is it?" , moment. Which led to research, nagging my friend who owns a computer repair shop about it, etc etc. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

	== Notability discussion ==		==Notability discussion==

	This is obviously well put together article, and a relevant repairability issue, but I have concerns about its notability, since this seems to be original research by the author (see: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Wiki_content_policies#Verifiability).		This is obviously well put together article, and a relevant repairability issue, but I have concerns about its notability, since this seems to be original research by the author (see: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Wiki_content_policies#Verifiability).

Keith: /* Notability discussion */ new section

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	::actually my board's much older I just bought it on 2023. regardless I took a glance at their current selection and noticed a lot of them use cover plates that may or may not hide the CR2032. checking images is a manual process but checking manuals can be automated. under the "Overview of Components" section in the PDF they showcase a "battery" in a CR2032-like enclosure or just a circular battery icon. out of the first 6 boards from the [https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products#?tag=MAG-Series MAG series] half of them show the use of a battery. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 21:57, 27 February 2026 (UTC)		::actually my board's much older I just bought it on 2023. regardless I took a glance at their current selection and noticed a lot of them use cover plates that may or may not hide the CR2032. checking images is a manual process but checking manuals can be automated. under the "Overview of Components" section in the PDF they showcase a "battery" in a CR2032-like enclosure or just a circular battery icon. out of the first 6 boards from the [https://us.msi.com/Motherboards/Products#?tag=MAG-Series MAG series] half of them show the use of a battery. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 21:57, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
	:::Thank you for looking! It seems to be only the higher end of their product line-up (MEG & MPG) has this new battery location, and only on their recently released boards. Prior to the 2025/2026 release cycle they all had standard mounts in obscure places. I have no issue with board designers hiding the battery out of view, behind the GPU or under a quick release NVME heat-sink, but not being able to even disconnect it for testing purposes without disassembling the whole top-side of the board makes the computer much more difficult to service. The whole reason I even noticed this, was my new MSI Box has had some stability issues, and I went to pull the CMOS batt, just to do a clean hard reset and had that ... "Wait... Where is it?" , moment. Which led to research, nagging my friend who owns a computer repair shop about it, etc etc. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2026 (UTC)		:::Thank you for looking! It seems to be only the higher end of their product line-up (MEG & MPG) has this new battery location, and only on their recently released boards. Prior to the 2025/2026 release cycle they all had standard mounts in obscure places. I have no issue with board designers hiding the battery out of view, behind the GPU or under a quick release NVME heat-sink, but not being able to even disconnect it for testing purposes without disassembling the whole top-side of the board makes the computer much more difficult to service. The whole reason I even noticed this, was my new MSI Box has had some stability issues, and I went to pull the CMOS batt, just to do a clean hard reset and had that ... "Wait... Where is it?" , moment. Which led to research, nagging my friend who owns a computer repair shop about it, etc etc. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

			== Notability discussion ==

			This is obviously well put together article, and a relevant repairability issue, but I have concerns about its notability, since this seems to be original research by the author (see: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Wiki_content_policies#Verifiability).

			At a minimum, we should at least have a citation pointing to some discussion of this issue online

			If there's no external sources for it, it might be something that's better hosted in userspace (i.e. /User:[Username]/[Pagename]). [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 22:04, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

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	:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)		:I'm not an AI. Nor was one used. I hate that we have to read subtext behind every line of text these days. [[User:LizzyLamia\|LizzyLamia]] ([[User talk:LizzyLamia\|talk]]) 23:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
			::not just text but even pictures, videos and audios need to be scrutinized which is tragic but that's the state of the current world. regardless, as Keith mentioned, w/o relevant citations it felt like first party reporting. I have added citations from MSI's forums and their FAQ which justfies the article's existence. but the guide part is original research and I feel its more relevant to be a standalone GUIDE: article rather than a part of this one. as Charlie 6 mentioned, it may not be worth it to every1 or be outright dangerous. you could totally do maintenance on your car like replace its fluids and what not. but many people don't have the time, lack the knowledge or just couldn't be bothered. if it were me I'd totally be down for an engine rebuild and if I had a CMOS issue like this I would consider following your guide. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)