Talk:South Eastern (train operating company) - Revision history

Keith: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

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	::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
	::::Quick question - if I only have one issue with a company, should I make a new article for the whole company and only add that incident or make the incident its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 12:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::::Quick question - if I only have one issue with a company, should I make a new article for the whole company and only add that incident or make the incident its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 12:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Probably just the incident to start with? really depends how major the incident is, and how much you want to write about it. if you only want to write a couple of paragraphs on the incident itself it might make more sense to have it as an insert in a company article. Up to you at the end of the day! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 16:14, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

AnotherConsumerRightsPerson: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

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	:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
	::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			::::Quick question - if I only have one issue with a company, should I make a new article for the whole company and only add that incident or make the incident its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 12:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

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	:::That makes sense - thank you for the response! I'll leave it up for a little while to see if anyone else chimes in, but remove it in a day or so if nothing comes up.		:::That makes sense - thank you for the response! I'll leave it up for a little while to see if anyone else chimes in, but remove it in a day or so if nothing comes up.
	:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Keith: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

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	:Hello, honestly i totally agree with you on this now hearing your point of view. I wanted to experiment with making a page for a UK train company but to be honest i'm not really sure how well this fits either. We could just delete this from the wiki at this point. I could not find anything else to talk about beside the issues listed that were notable enough, so this might just be a useless article altogether. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		:Hello, honestly i totally agree with you on this now hearing your point of view. I wanted to experiment with making a page for a UK train company but to be honest i'm not really sure how well this fits either. We could just delete this from the wiki at this point. I could not find anything else to talk about beside the issues listed that were notable enough, so this might just be a useless article altogether. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
	::I'm gonna reply to this comment again and say downwright that the train community who saw this did not like this '''because of incompetency or mismanagement''', not because of malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. We could just delete this. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:55, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::I'm gonna reply to this comment again and say downwright that the train community who saw this did not like this '''because of incompetency or mismanagement''', not because of malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. We could just delete this. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:55, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			:::That makes sense - thank you for the response! I'll leave it up for a little while to see if anyone else chimes in, but remove it in a day or so if nothing comes up.
			:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

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	:Hello, honestly i totally agree with you on this now hearing your point of view. I wanted to experiment with making a page for a UK train company but to be honest i'm not really sure how well this fits either. We could just delete this from the wiki at this point. I could not find anything else to talk about beside the issues listed that were notable enough, so this might just be a useless article altogether. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		:Hello, honestly i totally agree with you on this now hearing your point of view. I wanted to experiment with making a page for a UK train company but to be honest i'm not really sure how well this fits either. We could just delete this from the wiki at this point. I could not find anything else to talk about beside the issues listed that were notable enough, so this might just be a useless article altogether. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			::I'm gonna reply to this comment again and say downwright that the train community who saw this did not like this '''because of incompetency or mismanagement''', not because of malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. We could just delete this. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:55, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

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	Hi, Just opening a discussion as to how well this article, and the incidents related to South Eastern, fit with the wiki's [[Mission statement\|mission]] and [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines\|inclusion criteria]]		Hi, Just opening a discussion as to how well this article, and the incidents related to South Eastern, fit with the wiki's [[Mission statement\|mission]] and [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines\|inclusion criteria]]
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	Have added a relevancy notice, as the incidents listed appear to be as a result of incompetency or mismanagement, rather than malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. Assuming that refunds etc. were provided after these events, I'm not sure how they relate to the wiki? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 August 2025 (UTC) (Edited: unfucked the formatting)		Have added a relevancy notice, as the incidents listed appear to be as a result of incompetency or mismanagement, rather than malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. Assuming that refunds etc. were provided after these events, I'm not sure how they relate to the wiki? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 August 2025 (UTC) (Edited: unfucked the formatting)

			:Hello, honestly i totally agree with you on this now hearing your point of view. I wanted to experiment with making a page for a UK train company but to be honest i'm not really sure how well this fits either. We could just delete this from the wiki at this point. I could not find anything else to talk about beside the issues listed that were notable enough, so this might just be a useless article altogether. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 10:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Keith at 10:36, 14 August 2025

2025-08-14T10:36:52Z

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	Hi, Just opening a discussion as to how well this article, and the incidents related to South Eastern, fit with the wiki's [[Mission statement\|mission]] and [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines\|inclusion criteria]]		Hi, Just opening a discussion as to how well this article, and the incidents related to South Eastern, fit with the wiki's [[Mission statement\|mission]] and [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines\|inclusion criteria]]

			I've added my comment from my edit notice below, to start the discussion off:

			Have added a relevancy notice, as the incidents listed appear to be as a result of incompetency or mismanagement, rather than malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. Assuming that refunds etc. were provided after these events, I'm not sure how they relate to the wiki? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 August 2025 (UTC) (Edited: unfucked the formatting)
	~~I've added my comment from my edit notice below, to start the discussion off:~~
	Have added a relevancy notice, as the incidents listed appear to be as a result of incompetency or mismanagement, rather than malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. Assuming that refunds etc. were provided after these events, I'm not sure how they relate to the wiki? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Keith: /* Relevancy discussion */ new section

2025-08-14T10:36:11Z

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== Relevancy discussion ==

Hi, Just opening a discussion as to how well this article, and the incidents related to South Eastern, fit with the wiki's [[Mission statement|mission]] and [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines|inclusion criteria]]

I've added my comment from my edit notice below, to start the discussion off:
Have added a relevancy notice, as the incidents listed appear to be as a result of incompetency or mismanagement, rather than malicious or large-scale anti-consumer behaviour. Assuming that refunds etc. were provided after these events, I'm not sure how they relate to the wiki? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:36, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

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	::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
	::::Quick question - if I only have one issue with a company, should I make a new article for the whole company and only add that incident or make the incident its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 12:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::::Quick question - if I only have one issue with a company, should I make a new article for the whole company and only add that incident or make the incident its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 12:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Probably just the incident to start with? really depends how major the incident is, and how much you want to write about it. if you only want to write a couple of paragraphs on the incident itself it might make more sense to have it as an insert in a company article. Up to you at the end of the day! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 16:14, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

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	:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		:::In terms of major UK infrastructure companies which have more relevant incidents, i dare say there's probably some good areas to explore in the water/electricity sectors. Ramping up bills on old people who don't change providers seems like a practice that definitely deserves an article or two! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
	::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)		::::Okay! I know a bit about some things to do with electricity and old people, but i’m not sure how systemic it is. I’ll check it out anyway. Thanks! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
			::::Quick question - if I only have one issue with a company, should I make a new article for the whole company and only add that incident or make the incident its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 12:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)