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== 3p section ==

==3p section==

We need a section about third-party tracking.

* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.

*[https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.

* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [~~https://consumerrights.wiki/w/~~Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]

*The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because [[Google|gluegle]] loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers | gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]

Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint|fingerprinting]]'''.

[[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.

:Neither of [[WhatsApp|whatsapp]] or [[Discord|disbloat]] disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:

:* https://discord.com/privacy only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting

:* https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy only mentions its backup service

:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

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-== 3p section ==
+==3p section==
 We need a section about third-party tracking.
-* [https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
+*[https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use Here] you can see how apps bypass play-store policies to enumerate almost all installed apps. Outside of play-store, there's no such policy, so [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES <code>QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES</code>] can be abused.
-* The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because gluegle loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]
+*The fact that [https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission#INTERNET INTERNET] is not a [https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#runtime "dangerous"] permission, is no surprise because [[Google|gluegle]] loves ads. This forces users to install apps such as [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard NetGuard], which [[Talk:Google#they_REALLY_despise_ad-blockers | gluegle forbids from blocking host-names simply because it can be used to block ads]]
+Apps like [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64 AIDA64] and [https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager AppManager] can access '''a lot more''' info about the device, by default, which implies that other apps can abuse permissions to do '''excessive [[Device_fingerprint|fingerprinting]]'''.
 [[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 12:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
+:BTW, any app can bypass VPN-based firewalls (such as NetGuard) by simply using gluegle "Play Services" (or almost any other app with internet access) as a "middle-man", which allows them to do telemetry.
+:Neither of [[WhatsApp|whatsapp]] or [[Discord|disbloat]] disclose their use of [[Google Mobile Services|GPS/GMS]], look at their privacy-policies:
+:* https://discord.com/privacy only mentions "Google" once, and only referring to its cloud hosting
+:* https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/privacy-policy only mentions its backup service
+:Those PPs are the only ones linked by their respective apps, so they're not "only for the web version", they also apply to their OS-specific apps, so they must disclose GMS [[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 15:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)