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Miele is a manufacturer of domestic appliances founded in 1899.

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'''[[Wikipedia:Miele|Miele]]''' is a German manufacturer of domestic appliances and commercial equipment. It was founded in 1899 by Carl Miele and Reinhard Zinkann.

~~A lot of~~ Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality.

==Consumer-impact summary==

====Freedom====

====Privacy====

====Business model====

====Market control====

==Incidents==

===Proprietary smart-home ecosystem===

Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality, and protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is provided although Miele is part of CSA.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele |url=https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=CSA |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250120130535/https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |archive-date=20 Jan 2025}}</ref>

~~The Protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration~~ is ~~Provided although~~ Miele ~~is part of CSA.~~<ref>https://~~csa~~-~~iot~~.org/~~members~~/~~search~~/~~?m_keywords~~=~~miele~~</ref>

Instead Miele offers its own protocol which is difficult to set up, needs a Miele Developer Account<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele 3rd Party API Version 1.0.7 |url=https://www.miele.com/developer/ |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Miele]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251104153124/https://www.miele.com/developer/ |archive-date=4 Nov 2025}}</ref> and is only practical for technically experienced users.

== Miele app ~~incident ==~~

Miele devices do not offer any official local API and instead require a connection to Miele's cloud service for any form of integration or app control to work. However, recent efforts of the [https://github.com/akappner/MieleRESTServer MieleRESTServer project] seem to have had success in controlling some devices via the local network through unofficial means.

~~With Version 4~~.~~0 released 7~~/~~2021~~ the ~~Miele companion app suddenly lost critical advertised features:~~

* the Washing assistant

===Miele app incident (2021)===

* the ability to view the ~~remaining~~ detergent ~~in washing machines~~.

With Version 4.0 released in 2021, the Miele companion app had suddenly lost critical advertised features<ref>{{Cite web |title=TwinDos detergent container levels no longer editable on new Miele home app? |url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Miele/comments/ph4udc/twindos_detergent_container_levels_no_longer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1 |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref> such as:

These functions came back slowly in 2022 after lots of negative feedback of users.

*'''The washing assistant'''

*'''The ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.'''

These functions came back slowly in 2022 after lots of negative feedback from users.

===Forced updates (2022)===

A user on X has reported that their dishwasher refuses to start unless the user run an update which the device has found after being connected to a WiFi.<ref>{{Cite web |last=@isislovecruft |date=31 Jan 2022 |title=my dishwasher won’t start until i let it update its firmware over the wifi |url=https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |url-status=live |access-date=19 Mar 2025 |website=[[X]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250708184047/https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |archive-date=8 Jul 2025}}</ref>

==Products==

== See also ==

* [[Bosch]]

* [[GE Appliances]]

==References==

[[Category:Miele]]

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-Miele is a manufacturer of domestic appliances founded in 1899.
+{{Incomplete}}
+{{CompanyCargo
+|Description=
+|Founded=1899
+|Industry=Manufacturing
+|Logo=Miele.png
+|ParentCompany=
+|Type=Private
+|Website=https://miele.com/
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+'''[[Wikipedia:Miele|Miele]]''' is a German manufacturer of domestic appliances and commercial equipment. It  was founded in 1899 by Carl Miele and Reinhard Zinkann.
-A lot of Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality.
+==Consumer-impact summary==
+====Freedom====
+====Privacy====
+====Business model====
+====Market control====
+==Incidents==
+===Proprietary smart-home ecosystem===
+Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality, and protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is provided although Miele is part of CSA.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele |url=https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=CSA |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250120130535/https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |archive-date=20 Jan 2025}}</ref>
-The Protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is Provided although Miele is part of CSA.<ref>https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele</ref>
+Instead Miele offers its own protocol which is difficult to set up, needs a Miele Developer Account<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele 3rd Party API Version 1.0.7 |url=https://www.miele.com/developer/ |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Miele]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251104153124/https://www.miele.com/developer/ |archive-date=4 Nov 2025}}</ref> and is only practical for technically experienced users.
-==  Miele app incident ==
+Miele devices do not offer any official local API and instead require a connection to Miele's cloud service for any form of integration or app control to work. However, recent efforts of the [https://github.com/akappner/MieleRESTServer MieleRESTServer project] seem to have had success in controlling some devices via the local network through unofficial means.
-With Version 4.0 released 7/2021 the Miele companion app suddenly lost critical advertised features:
-* the Washing assistant
+===Miele app incident (2021)===
-* the ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.
+With Version 4.0 released in 2021, the Miele companion app had suddenly lost critical advertised features<ref>{{Cite web |title=TwinDos detergent container levels no longer editable on new Miele home app? |url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Miele/comments/ph4udc/twindos_detergent_container_levels_no_longer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1 |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref> such as:
-These functions came back slowly in 2022 after lots of negative feedback of users.
+*'''The washing assistant'''
+*'''The ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.'''
+These functions came back slowly in 2022 after lots of negative feedback from users.
+===Forced updates (2022)===
+A user on X has reported that their dishwasher refuses to start unless the user run an update which the device has found after being connected to a WiFi.<ref>{{Cite web |last=@isislovecruft |date=31 Jan 2022 |title=my dishwasher won’t start until i let it update its firmware over the wifi |url=https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |url-status=live |access-date=19 Mar 2025 |website=[[X]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250708184047/https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |archive-date=8 Jul 2025}}</ref>
+==Products==
+{{Ph-C-P}}
+== See also ==
+* [[Bosch]]
+* [[GE Appliances]]
+==References==
+<references />
+[[Category:Miele]]