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==can this page be easily accessible (like from the left-side taskbar or something) ?==
==How will the CRW approach April Fool's day?==


I love the fact that you guys created this page ; i believe having less and less reliance on discord is a good thing, but currently this page is hidden deep and if you dont know it exists you will never find it. Please make it available easily in some way. [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 19:27, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi, April Fool's day is next month and I don't want to initiate a discussion too late, so how would we approach it? My idea is 1) no jokes in articles, no exceptions and 2) clearly mark all jokes when they occur (I've made [[Template:April fools]] for this purpose). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 19:57, 2 March 2026 (UTC)


:Hi, thanks for posting this… I believe that is indeed the plan that we’re either going to add this to the policy page or the side bar or the help page. The team will discuss it and we will update you. [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 19:29, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
:If my science textbook in school gave me a QR code that ends up rickrolling me I think I'll spend longer than 1 day being distracted about it... lol
:Done. I agree better visibility is important. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 20:16, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
:In my opinion they should be contained within user pages and other types of pages the common person never visits, like having it as an extra link under Wiki policy or something. It would be really bad if someone in power happens to see it the one day they get told to visit a page on the wiki. Just my two cents... but then again I'm pretty biased against the day anyway [[User:Raster|Raster]] ([[User talk:Raster|talk]]) 06:56, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::Also, this page is linked to on all the article notice templates so it'll be easy to find when someone needs to come here. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 21:01, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
::I don't even think we should have it under a link on Wiki policy, just silently add it with thr correct template the correct people internally will see it via recent changes. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 07:08, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
:Honestly, I don't think we will be doing one this year. [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 07:29, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::Was there one last year? I don't think there was. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 07:36, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
:::There definitely wasn't.  [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 08:29, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::::I've deleted the template. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 16:10, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Might be worth undeleting it... Louis came up with an idea for an April Fools, based on that Norwegian enshittification video from the other day. Basic concept is to enshittify the wiki (maybe just the main page, and with an off button, of course) for a day. I fully agree with no jokes in articles - that's just a pain to keep track of and undo, and could damage credibility if done without good taste. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:33, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::I have had my ideas, but I'll keep them secret for now. I'll undelete it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:54, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::we could prob use the trollface as the wiki logo at least  [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 04:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC)


==deletion request :==


this is difficult to explain because english is my second language but i believe some people have accidently written stuff in the wrong article. please check out [[Link to the main article|this article]] yourself, you will understand what i mean when reading the title and the content. [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 21:00, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
==Appeal Request==


:Thanks for the report! I have removed the article for being written with AI. It is now protected so nobody can create an article with that title. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 21:51, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello! The article [[Advertising overload]] is marked as incomplete and as relying on AI/LLMs. I believe I've addressed the original intent of both of these, though the bottom section ([[Advertising overload#Notable Examples]]) is still a stub. I think the AI status notice should be removed, and the Incomplete notice should be replaced with a Stub notice.


==Request for comment: Transcript articles==
Cheers! [[User:Scholar Silas|Scholar Silas]] ([[User talk:Scholar Silas|talk]]) 05:52, 12 March 2026 (UTC)


An editor has raised a question on the need for AI generated transcripts of Louis Rossmann videos being hosted on this site. It seems these articles have been around for a while and are in the guideline pages as okay to include. I don't feel strongly about these and I wanted to ask more broadly about the need. According to [[:Category:Transcripts]] we have about 20 of them.
:{{Done}} including '''completely removing both notices''', not marking it as a stub. The article overall is very long, and if a section is all to complain about on a very long article, then it's definitely not a stub. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 16:02, 12 March 2026 (UTC)


Here is the comment in question that prompted me asking for feedback from others: [[Talk:Insta360 camera locks you out "to protect your consumer rights" - corporate gaslighting#why does this bs exist. why do these articles exist. can we stop ? this is so annoying. who wants this ??]] (pinging @[[User:Plankton|Plankton]]) '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 01:06, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
==Who gets superconfirmed first?==


:yeah thats me. i apologize for the strong language in my original post on the talk page of the [[Insta360 camera locks you out "to protect your consumer rights" - corporate gaslighting|article]]. I just dont feel these articles are worth anything at all. I doubt anyone would ever read them. And their existance may even turn people down from writing their own article on the subject since one (though of poor quality) already exists. I dont know why they were allowed in the first place, but i feel like they should be removed. In my opinion, they bring down the quality of the wiki. If a gouvernment representative ever looks at the wiki for info and falls onto AI bs, they might not see the wiki as a quality documentation. [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 01:24, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello, starting this discussion since the new superconfirmed usergroup has been added and we need to figure out who to give it to first. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 22:07, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::I think you're right. They served a purpose to start with, but have outlived it. I'll do a proper purge of them and anything related to them shortly, starting with deleting those ones you linked just now [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Ok - I've deleted the transcripts which were on the site. I'll start the rest of the cleanup in a bit but in the meantime feel free to point out any references to them that need to go and I can mop them all up [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 11:02, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
::::I assume [[Template:Autogenerated]] needs to go also? '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 15:00, 21 August 2025 (UTC)


==Am i allowed to make articles on legislature that is outside the US ?==
:Just tested it on [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsAlt]]; why can't it undelete pages? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 22:14, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::I shall fix! [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 00:02, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Also @[[User:JakeL|JakeL]] is semiprotection mow allowing superconfirmed users only as well as admins and not just normal confirmed users? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 06:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::Yes, autoconfirmed users no longer have the semiprotected permission. This was an intentional change requested by Keith [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 16:11, 15 March 2026 (UTC)


For the Legislature articles, are they only US centric ? or can I make articles on legislature from my country ? Moreover, do the sources cited need to be in english. Obviously the content of the page needs to be in english since this is an english wiki, but can the source be in other languages ? [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 22:25, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
==add "Quasi-Wanted" Special page==


:Consumer rights is a global issue. Yes, it is okay to include non-US issues and non-english sources, but it is preferable to find English sources. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 22:52, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
There are Wikipedia articles linked from many different CRW articles. It'd be nice to see which topics are candidates for a dedicated article on CRW. I say "topics", just-in-case a future update adds support for non-WP "pseudo-internal" links (because WP links are shown as "internal" even though they aren't)


==Hello dear moderators, please delete the page FTX i created==
Apologies in advance if this is not a place for feature-requests [[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 06:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC)


So, At first i thought i should make an article on what happened with FTX and so i started a page. But after some thoughts i realised that the actual article I wanted to write is on the systemic issue of cryptocurrency fraud in general, and not simply on FTX. so can you guys please delete the FTX page i made ? [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 05:23, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
==Appeal request for Wikipedia article==


:If you want to keep the page and just have it converted to another name, we can do that that way it still aligns with the issue you’re trying to discuss. As long as it’s systemic and works with in the editorial guidelines, it doesn’t necessarily need to be deleted. If you still do want us to remove it, please let us know. The same thing it was for if you want more help with the article just feel free to let us know. [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 11:53, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
I've been testing out the browser plugin for the last few days and noticed it popped up on Wikipedia. After reading [[Wikipedia#cite note-15]] I wanted to challenge whether this article belongs on Consumer Rights Wiki, as I don't think it fits with the [[Mission statement]] or [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines]] at time of writing.


==Deletion appeal "Presonus removes VSL...."==
Aside from mentioning that Wikipedia is big and influential (not necessarily a bad thing), there are two incidents listed. The first one relates to individual editors. The only citation for this mentions "Wikipedia has taken action against what it described as the “co-ordinated group” of fraudsters by blocking 381 accounts.".


Hello, I created a few days ago a page about Presonus deleting a software that was marketed with audio interfaces. I tried making changes on the page but the captcha just wouldn't trust that I was human and wouldn't let me add content to the article that's why it was empty.
The second one is similar, it refers to behaviour of editors - the first citation mentions "Wikipedias in all languages, including English, are open to edits by any volunteers", and also mentions that "one of the ... admins at Scots Wikipedia, has called for native speakers to contribute as the community seeks to save the project.".


It should now have some context and references, sorry for the inconvenience.
In both cases I think this is a reasonable response from Wikipedia, they stepped in to address the issues by blocking abusive users, acknowledged the inaccuracies and called for people to help fix them. Wikipedia is free, it's hosted by a non-profit organisation and the editors are not working for Wikipedia, they are independent users of the platform. I don't think it's fair to blame them for user-generated content, and in my opinion it hurts the cause when we include articles like this alongside articles highlighting genuinely abusive business practices. [[User:DiffChar|DiffChar]] ([[User talk:DiffChar|talk]]) 23:04, 17 March 2026 (UTC)


Best regards [[User:Leonneon|Leonneon]] ([[User talk:Leonneon|talk]]) 21:09, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:When this came up, I was very concerned but decided to leave it alone. Considering someone else thinks the exact same way as me, i think it's honestly a good idea atp for me to add a deletion request template (which anyone can  do, by the way!) and refer back here. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 16:14, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
 
:I take it you're talking about this article [[Presonus removes VSL mixing app from VSL audio interfaces products line]] @[[User:Leonneon|Leonneon]]? I have removed the deletion notice. Thanks for making the article. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 23:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== Should CRW be indexed by search engines? ==
 
Hello, I am writing here as I found a setting in the visual editor if you click those three lines and then ‘advanced settings’, which asks if you want a page to be indexed by search engines. I am sure that this setting is set to default, which means no on all articles (unless this was covered before and i do not know about it). I think this setting could be useful sometimes, but not always, to make the wiki easier to find and not just “I watch Louis Rossman so I know about the CRW!and also make others learn about this in general. You can probably make a discussion about this if this wasn’t talked about before. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

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How will the CRW approach April Fool's day?

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Hi, April Fool's day is next month and I don't want to initiate a discussion too late, so how would we approach it? My idea is 1) no jokes in articles, no exceptions and 2) clearly mark all jokes when they occur (I've made Template:April fools for this purpose). AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 19:57, 2 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

If my science textbook in school gave me a QR code that ends up rickrolling me I think I'll spend longer than 1 day being distracted about it... lol
In my opinion they should be contained within user pages and other types of pages the common person never visits, like having it as an extra link under Wiki policy or something. It would be really bad if someone in power happens to see it the one day they get told to visit a page on the wiki. Just my two cents... but then again I'm pretty biased against the day anyway Raster (talk) 06:56, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I don't even think we should have it under a link on Wiki policy, just silently add it with thr correct template the correct people internally will see it via recent changes. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 07:08, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Honestly, I don't think we will be doing one this year. JamesTDG (talk) 07:29, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Was there one last year? I don't think there was. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 07:36, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
There definitely wasn't. JamesTDG (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've deleted the template. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Might be worth undeleting it... Louis came up with an idea for an April Fools, based on that Norwegian enshittification video from the other day. Basic concept is to enshittify the wiki (maybe just the main page, and with an off button, of course) for a day. I fully agree with no jokes in articles - that's just a pain to keep track of and undo, and could damage credibility if done without good taste. Keith (talk) 10:33, 4 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I have had my ideas, but I'll keep them secret for now. I'll undelete it. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 15:54, 4 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
we could prob use the trollface as the wiki logo at least JamesTDG (talk) 04:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply


Appeal Request

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Hello! The article Advertising overload is marked as incomplete and as relying on AI/LLMs. I believe I've addressed the original intent of both of these, though the bottom section (Advertising overload#Notable Examples) is still a stub. I think the AI status notice should be removed, and the Incomplete notice should be replaced with a Stub notice.

Cheers! Scholar Silas (talk) 05:52, 12 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Done including completely removing both notices, not marking it as a stub. The article overall is very long, and if a section is all to complain about on a very long article, then it's definitely not a stub. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 16:02, 12 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Who gets superconfirmed first?

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Hello, starting this discussion since the new superconfirmed usergroup has been added and we need to figure out who to give it to first. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 22:07, 13 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Just tested it on User:AnotherConsumerRightsAlt; why can't it undelete pages? AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 22:14, 13 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I shall fix! JakeL (talk) 00:02, 15 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also @JakeL is semiprotection mow allowing superconfirmed users only as well as admins and not just normal confirmed users? AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 06:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yes, autoconfirmed users no longer have the semiprotected permission. This was an intentional change requested by Keith JakeL (talk) 16:11, 15 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

add "Quasi-Wanted" Special page

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There are Wikipedia articles linked from many different CRW articles. It'd be nice to see which topics are candidates for a dedicated article on CRW. I say "topics", just-in-case a future update adds support for non-WP "pseudo-internal" links (because WP links are shown as "internal" even though they aren't)

Apologies in advance if this is not a place for feature-requests Rudxain (talk) 06:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Appeal request for Wikipedia article

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I've been testing out the browser plugin for the last few days and noticed it popped up on Wikipedia. After reading Wikipedia#cite note-15 I wanted to challenge whether this article belongs on Consumer Rights Wiki, as I don't think it fits with the Mission statement or Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines at time of writing.

Aside from mentioning that Wikipedia is big and influential (not necessarily a bad thing), there are two incidents listed. The first one relates to individual editors. The only citation for this mentions "Wikipedia has taken action against what it described as the “co-ordinated group” of fraudsters by blocking 381 accounts.".

The second one is similar, it refers to behaviour of editors - the first citation mentions "Wikipedias in all languages, including English, are open to edits by any volunteers", and also mentions that "one of the ... admins at Scots Wikipedia, has called for native speakers to contribute as the community seeks to save the project.".

In both cases I think this is a reasonable response from Wikipedia, they stepped in to address the issues by blocking abusive users, acknowledged the inaccuracies and called for people to help fix them. Wikipedia is free, it's hosted by a non-profit organisation and the editors are not working for Wikipedia, they are independent users of the platform. I don't think it's fair to blame them for user-generated content, and in my opinion it hurts the cause when we include articles like this alongside articles highlighting genuinely abusive business practices. DiffChar (talk) 23:04, 17 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

When this came up, I was very concerned but decided to leave it alone. Considering someone else thinks the exact same way as me, i think it's honestly a good idea atp for me to add a deletion request template (which anyone can do, by the way!) and refer back here. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 16:14, 18 March 2026 (UTC)Reply