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===Lawsuit against reviews=== | ===Lawsuit against reviews=== | ||
{{ | {{Main|DCS sues small YouTuber for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty}} | ||
On August 16, 2023, Australian YouTuber [https://www.youtube.com/@AlloffroadAu AlloffroadAu] uploaded a review of DCS's 12v 50ah LiFePo4 lithium battery, mentioning the short longevity and substantial decline in performance after performing a capacity test. They also created a follow-up video regarding DCS's questionable history<ref>{{Cite web |last=AllOffRoad 4x4 |date=16 Aug 2023 |title=DCS Lithium LiFePo4 Under Bonnet Update: I went back to Lead Acid (under bonnet) 2023 |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRcSPuBob-I |website=YouTube |url-status=live |archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=vRcSPuBob-I |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>. Both videos were set to private following legal threats from DCS<ref>{{Cite web |last=Rossmann |first=Louis |date=31 Jul 2024 |title=Man sued for YouTube product review reinstates video in blow to Deep Cycle Systems. |url=https://youtu.be/d37BG0O0mFk |website=YouTube |url-status=live |archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=d37BG0O0mFk |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>. | On August 16, 2023, Australian YouTuber [https://www.youtube.com/@AlloffroadAu AlloffroadAu] uploaded a review of DCS's 12v 50ah LiFePo4 lithium battery, mentioning the short longevity and substantial decline in performance after performing a capacity test. They also created a follow-up video regarding DCS's questionable history<ref>{{Cite web |last=AllOffRoad 4x4 |date=16 Aug 2023 |title=DCS Lithium LiFePo4 Under Bonnet Update: I went back to Lead Acid (under bonnet) 2023 |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRcSPuBob-I |website=YouTube |url-status=live |archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=vRcSPuBob-I |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>. Both videos were set to private following legal threats from DCS<ref>{{Cite web |last=Rossmann |first=Louis |date=31 Jul 2024 |title=Man sued for YouTube product review reinstates video in blow to Deep Cycle Systems. |url=https://youtu.be/d37BG0O0mFk |website=YouTube |url-status=live |archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=d37BG0O0mFk |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>. | ||
AlloffroadAu reports that 30–50% of the storage capacity is lost in the first several years<ref>{{Cite web |last=Rossmann |first=Louis |date=23 Jul 2024 |title=DCS sues Small YouTuber for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty |url=https://youtu.be/_QNMVMlx48E?t=131 |website=YouTube |url-status=live |archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=_QNMVMlx48E |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>{{Citation needed|reason=needs primary source}}. They also point out that DCS states that battery capacity will be significantly reduced after traveling a certain distance, but this is not mentioned in their warranty policy {{ | AlloffroadAu reports that 30–50% of the storage capacity is lost in the first several years<ref>{{Cite web |last=Rossmann |first=Louis |date=23 Jul 2024 |title=DCS sues Small YouTuber for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty |url=https://youtu.be/_QNMVMlx48E?t=131 |website=[[YouTube]] |url-status=live |archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=_QNMVMlx48E |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>{{Citation needed|reason=needs primary source}}. They also point out that DCS states that battery capacity will be significantly reduced after traveling a certain distance, but this is not mentioned in their warranty policy.{{CitationNeeded}} | ||
===Hidden warranty policy update=== | ===Hidden warranty policy update=== | ||
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*This policy was last updated June 14, 2021. | *This policy was last updated June 14, 2021. | ||
This has been the case since November 7, 2023, according to [https://trove.nla.gov.au/ Trove], a web archiving service partnered with the National Library of Australia and other organizations.<ref name=":0">https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20231107111343/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/</ref> However, Trove shows that on March 9, 2023, the exception for installations in engine bays/compartments didn't exist, contradicting DCS's statement that their policy was last updated in 2021<ref name=":1">https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20230309064156/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/</ref>. | This has been the case since November 7, 2023, according to [https://trove.nla.gov.au/ Trove], a web archiving service partnered with the National Library of Australia and other organizations.<ref name=":0">https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20231107111343/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/ ([http://web.archive.org/web/20260216034910/https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20231107111343/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/ Archived])</ref> However, Trove shows that on March 9, 2023, the exception for installations in engine bays/compartments didn't exist, contradicting DCS's statement that their policy was last updated in 2021<ref name=":1">https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20230309064156/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/ ([http://web.archive.org/web/20251018082234/https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20230309064156/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/ Archived])</ref>. | ||
The lack of the second criterion means that owners of a DCS battery purchased before March 9, 2023, are affected by: | The lack of the second criterion means that owners of a DCS battery purchased before March 9, 2023, are affected by: | ||