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:Hi there, the purpose of this page is to list all types of article suggestions. If you don’t want to start a company page even just a little bit, you can add a heading here for that for companies/organizations and add the name of the organization and why it meets the standards to be included here. If you have any issues, reply back to this and me or another staff member will help you get that added. Thanks for pointing this out. - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 18:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list.... ==

==I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....==

2800$ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes

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[[User:Tekstep01|Tekstep01]] ([[User talk:Tekstep01|talk]]) 07:42, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

==AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users==

As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).

They have also had shady marketing practices whereby users believed they were buying perpetual licenses but in reality the T&C had in its small print that these licenses were for a 3-year-plan (again, see earlier comments [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here] and [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/10r64u1/lifetime_subscription/ here] too).

While this probably doesn't count as "evidence", I know a person who bought one of such lifetime licenses and after a few years a few devices later, they reinstalled AllTails only to find out that their license magically disappeared. They contacted their customer service who denied restoring the lifetime license at all despite all personal details of purchaser had been provided. AllTrails solicited a proof of transaction which the buyer couldn't find due to the time that lapsed. Either way, Reddit reports suggest that the best case-scenario would be offering a 3-year-plan (see comments [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/10r64u1/lifetime_subscription/ here]).

This is a really shady company that has misled and violated consumer rights. It deserves a page to remind the public of its dark past of revoking lifetime licenses, shady selling practices, and forcing a subscription model.

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'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims. Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

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 :Hi there, the purpose of this page is to list all types of article suggestions. If you don’t want to start a company page even just a little bit, you can add a heading here for that for companies/organizations and add the name of the organization and why it meets the standards to be included here. If you have any issues, reply back to this and me or another staff member will help you get that added. Thanks for pointing this out. -  [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 18:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
-== I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list.... ==
+==I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....==
 $ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes
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 [[User:Tekstep01|Tekstep01]] ([[User talk:Tekstep01|talk]]) 07:42, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
+:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
+==AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users==
+As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).
+They have also had shady marketing practices whereby users believed they were buying perpetual licenses but in reality the T&C had in its small print that these licenses were for a 3-year-plan (again, see earlier comments [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here] and [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/10r64u1/lifetime_subscription/ here] too).
+While this probably doesn't count as "evidence", I know a person who bought one of such lifetime licenses and after a few years a few devices later, they reinstalled AllTails only to find out that their license magically disappeared. They contacted their customer service who denied restoring the lifetime license at all despite all personal details of purchaser had been provided. AllTrails solicited a proof of transaction which the buyer couldn't find due to the time that lapsed. Either way, Reddit reports suggest that the best case-scenario would be offering a 3-year-plan (see comments [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/10r64u1/lifetime_subscription/ here]).
+This is a really shady company that has misled and violated consumer rights. It deserves a page to remind the public of its dark past of revoking lifetime licenses, shady selling practices, and forcing a subscription model.
+Suggested incident text:
+'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims.  Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
+:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)