Talk:Apple's anti-repair and anti-refurbishment practices: Difference between revisions
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::::True, though regarding the iPhone 6, (while being a good phone besides bendgate) it hasn’t been supported through software updates for 6 years. Granted with my experience delisted apps can be redownloaded through the App Store account page, though if your device is already jail broken, you can just sideload the IPAs (if the device isn’t jailbroken, sideloadly can work also). I guess it would depend on the region if they still support 3G and 2G cell signals, but not many people in North America use iPhones older than the 11, with that number apparently increasing [https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/01/nearly-70-of-users-plan-to-upgrade-to-iphone-17/ with the 17]. The diagnostic feature is for [https://tidbits.com/2023/12/13/apple-self-service-repair-adds-remote-diagnostics-and-supports-new-devices/ iPhones 12 and up], so maybe we can make a case for the 11 lineup as it’s still supported in iOS 26, but I would like to hear what other users think about this topic as well. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 13:58, 13 September 2025 (UTC) | ::::True, though regarding the iPhone 6, (while being a good phone besides bendgate) it hasn’t been supported through software updates for 6 years. Granted with my experience delisted apps can be redownloaded through the App Store account page, though if your device is already jail broken, you can just sideload the IPAs (if the device isn’t jailbroken, sideloadly can work also). I guess it would depend on the region if they still support 3G and 2G cell signals, but not many people in North America use iPhones older than the 11, with that number apparently increasing [https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/01/nearly-70-of-users-plan-to-upgrade-to-iphone-17/ with the 17]. The diagnostic feature is for [https://tidbits.com/2023/12/13/apple-self-service-repair-adds-remote-diagnostics-and-supports-new-devices/ iPhones 12 and up], so maybe we can make a case for the 11 lineup as it’s still supported in iOS 26, but I would like to hear what other users think about this topic as well. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 13:58, 13 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::::You can only redownload apps, not download new ones, and only on devices where Apple still hasn't borked the App Store entirely yet. Moreover, you need to figure out how to enter the multifactor codes on Apple IDs on devices that don't know how to handle them. | :::::You can only redownload apps, not download new ones, and only on devices where Apple still hasn't borked the App Store entirely yet. Moreover, you need to figure out how to enter the multifactor codes on Apple IDs on devices that don't know how to handle them. | ||
:::::Sideloading IPAs only works if you have archived IPAs licensed to your account, which is not within what a normal user can do. | :::::Sideloading IPAs only works if you have archived IPAs licensed to your account, which is not within what a normal user can do. | ||
:::::I don't think whatever possibilities are opened by Jailbreaking can be considered relevant for the purposes of the discussion since it's not something Apple officially allows, nor is it something that can be done on all devices. | :::::I don't think whatever possibilities are opened by Jailbreaking can be considered relevant for the purposes of the discussion since it's not something Apple officially allows, nor is it something that can be done on all devices. | ||
:::::I can still launch any software I want on my dad's Atari ST. MS Office 97 with Clippy still installs on a fresh copy of Windows 95. That should be our standard. | :::::I can still launch any software I want on my dad's Atari ST. MS Office 97 with Clippy still installs on a fresh copy of Windows 95. That should be our standard. | ||
:::::I'll try to get a draft for the relevant sections into the page, then you guys can see what you think and edit or discard as you see fit. [[User:MrTuttle|MrTuttle]] ([[User talk:MrTuttle|talk]]) 19:05, 15 September 2025 (UTC) | :::::I'll try to get a draft for the relevant sections into the page, then you guys can see what you think and edit or discard as you see fit. [[User:MrTuttle|MrTuttle]] ([[User talk:MrTuttle|talk]]) 19:05, 15 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
::::::Just looking at your contribution on this page, I think you might be better off putting the greenwashing stuff on apple's main page, and then linking to this page when you discuss how apple's anti-repair practices undermine its claims of being eco-friendly. (and also there's some question about how anti-consumer greenwashing is in the first place. I think it does fix the wiki, but should be approached from a 'misleading marketing' angle rather than an 'environmental damage' angle) [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 21:23, 15 September 2025 (UTC) | |||