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move forced-req to "Why it is a problem" section
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move "targeted ads" to "Why it is a problem", as ads are very intentional, and not an intrinsic problem of JS
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*'''Lack of transparency''': To optimize network bandwidth, JS code is typically served in [[wikipedia:Minification_(programming)|minified]] form, which makes it harder to understand for humans. This is particularly problematic if the original source is not publicly [[wikipedia:Source-available_software|available]], which is typically the case of [[wikipedia:Proprietary_software|proprietary software]].
*'''Lack of transparency''': To optimize network bandwidth, JS code is typically served in [[wikipedia:Minification_(programming)|minified]] form, which makes it harder to understand for humans. This is particularly problematic if the original source is not publicly [[wikipedia:Source-available_software|available]], which is typically the case of [[wikipedia:Proprietary_software|proprietary software]].
*'''Excessive tracking''': JS is much more capable than HTML and CSS '''combined''' to track user behavior, because of its first-class access to [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API user-agent (UA) APIs].<ref>https://clickclickclick.click/</ref> JS can communicate with almost any server (only limited by [[wikipedia:Cross-origin_resource_sharing|CORS]]) at any time (limited by connection availability), using a plethora of protocols. JS can get hardware information and compute a [[Device fingerprint|fingerprint of the device]], user, or both.<ref>https://privacycheck.sec.lrz.de/</ref><ref>https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs</ref><ref>https://www.deviceinfo.me/</ref>
*'''Excessive tracking''': JS is much more capable than HTML and CSS '''combined''' to track user behavior, because of its first-class access to [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API user-agent (UA) APIs].<ref>https://clickclickclick.click/</ref> JS can communicate with almost any server (only limited by [[wikipedia:Cross-origin_resource_sharing|CORS]]) at any time (limited by connection availability), using a plethora of protocols. JS can get hardware information and compute a [[Device fingerprint|fingerprint of the device]], user, or both.<ref>https://privacycheck.sec.lrz.de/</ref><ref>https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs</ref><ref>https://www.deviceinfo.me/</ref>
*[[Personalized Ads|'''Targeted ads''']]: JS makes it harder for [[Ad block|ad-blockers]] to block ads, since it can be used to make overly-dynamic ads. The data collected by malicious JS makes it trivial to serve personalized ads, even across unrelated sites.
*'''Market control''': JS (alongside [[wikipedia:WebAssembly|Wasm]]) are built into almost every web-browser and UA, including "light-weight" ones (such as [[wikipedia:W3m|w3m]]). Incentivizing companies to use it for everything, since "there's no need to worry about compatibility or portability". Some people say that JS shouldn't even be a Web Standard,<ref>https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/06/22/navistone-form-data</ref><ref>https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/06/27/web-without-javascript</ref> implying that it should be an [[wikipedia:Browser_extension|extension]] or [[wikipedia:Plug-in_(computing)|plug-in]] (such as Java Applets and [[Adobe]] Flash) the user willingly installs; this would reduce the incentive to use JS, as there's no guarantee the user has it.
*'''Market control''': JS (alongside [[wikipedia:WebAssembly|Wasm]]) are built into almost every web-browser and UA, including "light-weight" ones (such as [[wikipedia:W3m|w3m]]). Incentivizing companies to use it for everything, since "there's no need to worry about compatibility or portability". Some people say that JS shouldn't even be a Web Standard,<ref>https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/06/22/navistone-form-data</ref><ref>https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/06/27/web-without-javascript</ref> implying that it should be an [[wikipedia:Browser_extension|extension]] or [[wikipedia:Plug-in_(computing)|plug-in]] (such as Java Applets and [[Adobe]] Flash) the user willingly installs; this would reduce the incentive to use JS, as there's no guarantee the user has it.
*'''Security risks''': JS is well-known for being a poorly-designed tool.<ref>https://github.com/denysdovhan/wtfjs</ref><ref>https://github.com/brianleroux/wtfjs</ref><ref>https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#JavaScript_sucks_because</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/ideas/blob/aa9a80252a4b7c9c51f32eda5c716e96220ed96e/software/evar/with_bf.js</ref> This leads to programmers and even experienced software-devs to accidentally add vulnerabilities to their code. That, and the fact that JS is [[wikipedia:Turing_completeness|Turing-complete]] (both [https://gavinhoward.com/2024/03/what-computers-cannot-do-the-consequences-of-turing-completeness/#mathematical-vs-practical in practice and in theory]) is a recipe for disaster, as it makes [[wikipedia:Debugging|debugging]] and [[wikipedia:Reverse_engineering|reverse-engineering]] impractical in big code-bases. It's worth noting that tooling, such as [[wikipedia:TypeScript|TypeScript]] and [[wikipedia:ESLint|ESLint]], exist to substantially minimize the likelihood of [[wikipedia:Software_bug|bugs]].
*'''Security risks''': JS is well-known for being a poorly-designed tool.<ref>https://github.com/denysdovhan/wtfjs</ref><ref>https://github.com/brianleroux/wtfjs</ref><ref>https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#JavaScript_sucks_because</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/ideas/blob/aa9a80252a4b7c9c51f32eda5c716e96220ed96e/software/evar/with_bf.js</ref> This leads to programmers and even experienced software-devs to accidentally add vulnerabilities to their code. That, and the fact that JS is [[wikipedia:Turing_completeness|Turing-complete]] (both [https://gavinhoward.com/2024/03/what-computers-cannot-do-the-consequences-of-turing-completeness/#mathematical-vs-practical in practice and in theory]) is a recipe for disaster, as it makes [[wikipedia:Debugging|debugging]] and [[wikipedia:Reverse_engineering|reverse-engineering]] impractical in big code-bases. It's worth noting that tooling, such as [[wikipedia:TypeScript|TypeScript]] and [[wikipedia:ESLint|ESLint]], exist to substantially minimize the likelihood of [[wikipedia:Software_bug|bugs]].
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Many webpages (and even entire websites), force the user to keep JS enabled, otherwise they break or deliberately refuse to work. In 2026, considering the advancements in HTML and CSS technology, there is minimal reason why an average website (excluding real-time simulations and low-latency gaming) would ''ever'' need JS. The only valid justification are [[wikipedia:Legacy_code|legacy code-bases]], as those are impractical to migrate to no-JS solutions.
Many webpages (and even entire websites), force the user to keep JS enabled, otherwise they break or deliberately refuse to work. In 2026, considering the advancements in HTML and CSS technology, there is minimal reason why an average website (excluding real-time simulations and low-latency gaming) would ''ever'' need JS. The only valid justification are [[wikipedia:Legacy_code|legacy code-bases]], as those are impractical to migrate to no-JS solutions.
Expanding on the tracking capability, JS makes it harder for [[Ad block|ad-blockers]] to block ads, since it can be used to make overly-dynamic ads. The data collected by malicious JS makes it trivial to serve [[Personalized Ads|personalized ads]], even across unrelated sites.


Expanding on the security risks, these are the most common vulnerabilities found in JS code:
Expanding on the security risks, these are the most common vulnerabilities found in JS code: